Scarlet and Epic updates...

[Stephen Pruitt]

George Washington was our Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus.

Stephen

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

All very true, Mark. . . but, I just copied this off the RED website:

RED RENDERS OBSOLESCENCE OBSOLETE

I just hope Jim really means what his marketing materials say.

And, yes, depending upon the pricing structure, I do plan on converting "Lewis" and "Clark" to Epic-status.

Stephen

Regardless of what Red does or doesn't do with respect to hardware upgrades to RED ONE - I feel like it's impossible to call it "obsolete" when:

a) you can get a full refund/credit towards the latest and greatest - what technology company does that? Can you turn in your 8-Core MacPro and get full credit towards the 12-core model that "might" be coming soon?

b) The RED ONE shoots a resolution far greater than HD broadcast deliverables and an image quality suitable for theatrical distribution which will be seen in forthcoming "all-RED" theatrical releases such as KNOWING and GAME.

The thing about technology is ... you can't stop it. Faster, better, cheaper. The bar raises higher and higher and it will not stop. But if you can use a tool in the current marketplace competitively - it's not obsolete.

I expect Scarlet to make people stop buying several of the competitions products, but those who own those cameras - can and will still use them to do work. So ... those Sony, Panasonic and Canon products are not really OBSOLETE - people will just stop investing in new ones. And YES, people will flood eBay - the smart ones will sell NOW.

 

[Bing Bailey]

we should call the next camera DSCAM LOL can't wait to hear what the new vision is. I'm sure jim would only be doing it if it were better than the original vision. need to keep pushing the envelope

 

[Stephen Pruitt]

Sorry, Mark, but that's just baloney. Please READ the doggone marketing materials below. . . which are now on the RED website:

"The RED ONE™ body – designed for flexibility and functionality. Weighing in at 10 lbs, this is a streamlined package specifically designed to maximize your shooting options. Matched with a 35mm PL lens mount, it allows you to take advantage of the world’s finest optics. Modular and upgradeable, the RED ONE™ camera is a future-proof acquisition system you can build upon. RED ONE™’s modular design means you can upgrade with us as we add new features and accessories, as well as benefitting from performance improvements with each new free firmware upgrade."

Either they mean what they say, or they are just as guilty as every other camera manufacturer. Your saying that you can trade in your RED One for an Epic at twice the price hardly makes it a "future-proof acquisition system" in my book. The fact that RED is upgrading some things for free (such as the audio section) was just part of the bargain that came along with RED funding its R&D by releasing a product before it was really ready for market.

I'm all for RED. . . we bought two of 'em. And we shot our first feature on those cameras and currently have two more features in the works. But that doesn't mean I'm going to give them a free pass.

Stephen

 

[konozulu]

Shawn... we have set our sights high and have learned a lot in the past month or so. We aim to make you proud of your belief in RED. This is the biggest, most exciting and incredible thing I have ever been involved in. Really great stuff. I am confident that you will be pleased.

Jim

Over the weekend I had decided I would sell my D300 and upgrade to a D700. I stood at the camera counter looking at everything, trying to decide if it was worth getting rid of all of my DX Lenses etc. ALL I could think about was the possibility of a Red DSMC....it kept going over and over in my head. I turned to my wife and said "I can wait a year". I CAN wait a year to buy....but i need at LEAST a year to drool. I HOPE this is part of the announcement!!

BTW....i went and bought another pair of Oakleys instead.

 

[number6]

All very true, Mark. . . but, I just copied this off the RED website:

RED RENDERS OBSOLESCENCE OBSOLETE


Stephen

This got me to thinking about my oun cameras... as best as I can determine, in regard to price and results the only company capable of rendering my cameras obsolete is RED itself. And with the upgrade paths for R1's, the Epic may have more bells and whistles for those who ring bells and blow whistles, but I think my cameras will not produce obsolete footage until the advent of holographic TV.

It's like that ad for some phone company or another's roll over minutes where one son complains because he doesn't get the new minutes and the mother shuffles his old rollover minutes in with the new minute pile. She then asks the son feeling slighted if he can tell if the minute she is now holding up is a new one or old one? He says no.

 

[Remy Carter]

Last time I checked Jim offered the future option of upgrading the chip in the Red One for a price without needing to buy all new accessories and an all new camera....

 

[Stephen Pruitt]

That is the question, Remy. . . that is the relevant question.

Stephen

 

[Ethan Cooper]

I think it is about time that someone is elected that can solve problems in a new way. I don't see that candidate on the ballot.

Well said. While listening to the debates I was struck with how little difference there was between the two candidates. Sure they disagree on periferial issues, but their core philosophy seems to be the same, namely that government can and must fix everything & that their job will be to play Santa Clause for the American people and give them whatever they wish instead of spearheading meaningful initiatives (not government programs) that seek to fix some of the large underlying problems we face and not just treating the symptoms.
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Dodge daytona specifications

 

[Remy Carter]

Yes it is. As I don't believe I'll need 5K for some time and would like the availability of a higher dynamic range inside the Red One.

 

[Christopher Nagel]

So, the Police came by RED today. Said we were having way too much fun.

Oh cool! They're making a new video for the 2nd reunion? Awesome!

They arrested Jarred, Matt, Isaac and Groff. I escaped out the back window. I called our attorney to go bail them out. Hope they make it to work tomorrow. We have a lot to do.

Oh, those Police!

Lemme know if you need bail $$ -- I've been saving up and I got it ready to send RIGHT NOW!

Chris

 

[M.Halsell]

More good news! Not again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA

 

[Steve Sherrick]

in regards to the obsolecense question, jim has repeatedly said there will be an upgrade path for Red One. A new chip with more dynamic range and perhaps some other image enhancements has been talked about. To me, that means they are staying true to their word. If I can have a new chip popped in to my Red that makes it seem like a new camera, for a fair upgrade price, that does seem to make my camera a very viable option for the next few years. The last thing we want Red doing is stop designing new camera technology. That won't be good for anyone.

 

[arun]

Hope i can edit scarlet footage in new macbook pro! or sony AW note book so wht 8 core mac pro doing here?, (waiting for epic or wht?)

 

[Evangelos Achillopoulos]

I feel a fresh air in your words Jim...

It seems that, at the end, we have common wishes from the Santa... as if we ware kids... remember...

Yes, relive is a good thing, if you feel happy, we will also feel happy to! very soon...

Lets wait and see... I trust your sincere motivation... you are more wise now...

Creation of challenging things, many times, is happiness... I know the feeling... yes you cant wait...

 

[PatrickW]

Jim,
Maybe not spill the beans... but open the lid a little and let a few vapors float round.

Here, it's easy....
We all know the RedOne DR has been measured at 11.3 stops.
Now if I were to say Epic's sensor could resolve at least 12.8 stops, would I be lying?

Dave,

bean vapor? no thanks.

 

[number6]

bean vapor? no thanks.

But it has been discovered that THAT Hydrogen Sulfoxide smell actually may help keep the arteries open and lower blood pressure.


By the way... what ever happened to REDRAY? Will there be any mention of that on Nov 13?

 

[Gene Crucean]

nevaaaahhh...

So, the Police came by RED today. Said we were having way too much fun. They arrested Jarred, Matt, Isaac and Groff. I escaped out the back window. I called our attorney to go bail them out. Hope they make it to work tomorrow. We have a lot to do.

Jim

How did Message in a Bottle sound live?

 

[Ajit_AP]

Woohoo! I really hope this is awesome!

 

[James Brundige]

Well said. While listening to the debates I was struck with how little difference there was between the two candidates. Sure they disagree on periferial issues, but their core philosophy seems to be the same, namely that government can and must fix everything & that their job will be to play Santa Clause for the American people and give them whatever they wish instead of spearheading meaningful initiatives (not government programs) that seek to fix some of the large underlying problems we face and not just treating the symptoms.

If you can't figure out the difference between these two candidates, then you are as clueless as the people who elected Bush twice.