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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

What EVF res. numbers are shipping now?

laguun said:
steven, you have been misinformed.

In the recent decade, traditional cinema cameras, as HDCAM from Sony, Panavision or Thomson Grass Valley used electronic viewfinders.

This is done to overcome the inherent design disadvantages and flaws of optical viewfinders, which would be :
- loss of light.
- the inability of monitoring the recorded signal, which is considered cruicial by several dps, directors and producers
- the pure absence of any successful digital camera using an optical viewfinder design. Only badselling and/or discontinued products, as the Arri D20 were *only* using optical designs.

I included a short list of digital full features which where successful in cinemas in the recent decade which used EVFs. Feel free to enhance the list by the ones i missed.

Furthermore, one should be aware that in the 35mm marketspace, still a slight minority of the sold cameras are based on the mechanical design approach - these typically have to use OVFs.

* Bryan Singer - Superman Returns,
* Peter Greenaway - Nightwatching
* David Fincher - Zodiac
* Michael Mann - Miami Vice, Collateral,
* Steven Soderbergh - Guerrilla, Argentine
* Sidney Lumet - Tödliche Entscheidung
* Anthony Hopkins - Slipstream
* Andy Wachowski und Larry Wachowski - Speed Racer,
* Mel Gibson - Apocalypto,
* Francis Ford Coppola - Youth with without Youth
* Ridley Scott - The Company
* Pitof - Vidocq
* George Lucas - Star Wars Episode II and III,
* Robert Luketic - 21
* Robert Altman - A Prairie Home Companion,
* Lee Tamahori - Next
* Robert Rodriguez - Sin City, Planet Terror,
* Tony Scott - Déjà Vu
* Lars von Trier - Dogville, Manderlay,
* Rob Minkoff - The Forbidden Kingdom
* Michael Moore - Bowling for Columbine,
* Sylvester Stallone - Rocky Balboa,
* David Zucker - Scary Movie 4
* Peter Jackson - Crossing the line,
* James Cameron - Ghosts of the Abyss, Aliens of the Deep, Avatar
* Robert Zemeckis - Polar Express, Beowulf
* David Lynch - Inland Empire,
* Jean-Jacques Annaud - Two Brothers
* Tim Burton - Corpse Bride
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I think he was referring to film cameras when he said Cinema cameras (correct terminology or not), and in that market (which is the vast majority of the 35mm market) opitcal viewfinders are still the mainstay. And your statistic of optical viewfinders sold in the minority seems misleading in that most digital systems do not offer an optical option, those filmmakers don't have a choice.

not to argue the merits of the EVF
 
Got mine... #346. Nice sharp image. The viewfinder desperately needs a color adjustment. Tint too. I hope we see this in build 16.

Chris Bell
 
So... where are we now? Heard EVF deliveries are catching up with orders.
 
We have made great progress with EVFs, yes. As promised, we are narrowing the delta between cameras being delivered and camera serial numbers that are getting EVFs allocated.

BC
 
Any word on what Serial #s are getting deliveries? I've checked Big John's update - nothing new, there.

Any way you could post a delivery schedule for EVFs, like the cameras have?
 
Kenn, EVFs don't have serial numbers of their own, but it seems like the serial numbers of the cameras that have been getting them as of late are in the 300s. I believe Ketch just got his recently and he's also in the 300s.

Jim did imply the other day on another thread that the EVFs will be catching up with bodies relatively soon, though. He didn't say approximately when, though. But it's still mighty encouraging news. I'm not much of a flat panel shooter myself. For me, the EVF is vital.
 
I'm #369, still waiting...
 
Yikes, still only in the 300's.

So..... I thought production was going to be ramped up.

We keep hearing that, but if you look at the numbers it's only about 100 per month. 4 EVFs produced per day? That's not a very smokin' production line.

Why is this particular accessory taking so long to build?

Any way you guys can really RAMP this? At this rate, I won't get mine for another year!

Sorry to bitch but.... really.

m
 
I'm in the same boat (maybe a touch earlier) - 1146. An estimate (from Red) would sure be nice - as I've already paid for the EVF, in full.
 
This part of the production doesn't seem that it will increase the number of EVF's a month. They've been shipping for over 4 months and it's moving very slow.
 
I was told by Red mine would be delivered sometime in July. So production looks to average out to be <100 per month.
 
We are not in the 300's. We are not going to post a formal (or even informal) schedule, but I have stated in a few places that EVF production will, obviously, have to exceed RED ONE production to allow for the backorder to be bit in to. The gap has been narrowed and it will continue to do so. I think you all will be pleasantly surprised when you get your "Your EVF is ready" email as I think it will exceed the current expectations of the last few posts.

BC
 
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Brent@RED said:
We are not in the 300's. We are not going to post a formal (or even informal) schedule, but I have stated in a few places that EVF production will, obviously, have to exceed RED ONE production to allow for the backorder to be bit in to. The gap has been narrowed and it will continue to do so. I think you all will be pleasantly surprised when you get your "Your EVF is ready" email as I think it will exceed the current expectations of the last few posts.

BC
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The question I am wondering is how many EVF's have been ordered? 1000? 2000? 3000? Just trying to figure out how close you are to my number.

Thanks,

Matthew
 
Interesting. I was given a VERY non-committal "maybe sometime in July/August..." So maybe they are ramping... or there is a wide variety of interpretations of the schedule.

My question is, why is it a mystery? We were given a serial number shipping schedule for cameras that held true until NAB... and that was very helpful. Why can't that be done with EVFs?

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Rfo said:
I was told by Red mine would be delivered sometime in July. So production looks to average out to be <100 per month.
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