Birger Lens Mount Reservations

[Michael Hastings]

Spoke to Erik thursday or friday last

Spoke to Erik thursday or friday last

i just tried calling birger and all i got was voice mail - does anyone have erik's cell? how many people actually work there - is it just him.....?

have they gone bust?

thoughts?

cheers,

david

Spoke to Erik thursday or friday last about a lot of stuff, upshot is they are still there and basically on track. Without speaking for Erik but as a manufacturer myself that has been in a slight holding pattern as well, bear in mind that RED has delayed again (albeit slightly) and this next batch of cameras, as Jim has stated, is the NEW RED and we are all a little hesitant to finalize our production without seeing what that is. RED's motto is everything changes but even a minor change to the right part could cause major issues for us if we are already completely committed.

Originally Posted by Manny
Hope this isn't indicative of future support.

Thats exactly what I'm thinking, and hoping is not the case!!!

Guys bear in mind that RED has not even delivered THEIR accessories like REDDRIVES, Viewfinders, etc. and they control EVERYTHING. Further, only 100 cameras have been delivered in 3 months and now have been recalled to be replaced - in other words their are currently NO FINALIZED CAMERAS DELIVERED PERIOD. I don't know how many people work at Birger but we are all small companies so unless you get a receptionist - that probably can't answer any of your questions - you probably end up talking to one of the principals - the engineer, the technician, etc.. If you are talking to them then they are not working on production oriented tasks, so most small businesses have to limit that level of communication especially when the answers are undetermined. RED accessories are important but it isn't our only business and until RED delivers cameras it is just development and we have to take care of current customers to have an ongoing business/income.

To demand preorder communication and then speculate on future support for an undelivered product (and undeliverable until RED ships theirs) isn't realistic or fair.

I've been waiting 19 months for my RED. Look at my signature - RED #206 available in November was my calculation adding a 2 month cushion to the original ship dates - yet I still don't have a camera and don't know for sure when I will. I expected to have my camera and be in full production/sales mode on our product.

My suggestion to the group is to lighten up and let things play out.

 

[Greg M]

i just tried calling birger and all i got was voice mail - does anyone have erik's cell? how many people actually work there - is it just him.....?

have they gone bust?

thoughts?

cheers,

david

my god, leave the guy alone...your camera number is over 1000.

 

[Fergus Meiklejohn]

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I've been waiting 19 months for my RED. Look at my signature - RED #206 available in November was my calculation adding a 2 month cushion to the original ship dates - yet I still don't have a camera and don't know for sure when I will. I expected to have my camera and be in full production/sales mode on our product.

My suggestion to the group is to lighten up and let things play out.

Well said AquaVideo.. :construction:

 

[Michael Hastings]

Christmas present, yippee!

Christmas present, yippee!

I've been waiting 19 months for my RED. Look at my signature - RED #206 available in November was my calculation adding a 2 month cushion to the original ship dates - yet I still don't have a camera and don't know for sure when I will. I expected to have my camera and be in full production/sales mode on our product.

My suggestion to the group is to lighten up and let things play out.

Quoting myself. While I was writing this, RED was sending me my get ready for shipment email. So Merry Christmas, Thanks, Jim and the team and I'm sure it will be a happy, exciting New Year!

 

[Erik Widding]

For those wondering, we are a six employee company... mostly engineers and no receptionist. If you call us, it is generally me who answers the phone. We have been in business since January 1999. I am reminded of Mark Twain: "The reports of my death have been greatly exagerated". I must admit it is flattering, and at times annoying, to be the subject of so much conjecture.

The update...

One of our early customers is loaning us a camera for two weeks. I should have it tomorrow. Because we now have access to a camera in Boston, beta units will not be shipped until I am completely happy with all of the details. THings will also go faster as I will not have to fly to Orange County or Burbank to finalize the last details. Production Canon EF units will be available in the first weeks of January. Reservations received today should ship around the end of January.

Reservations (including FREE remote control) are still open, and still being processed. Form is available at:
http://www.birger.com/cinema_order_form.pdf

I will be off for five days for the holidays, and my girlfriend has made me promise not to bring work with me.

 

[Babu Kantamneni]

For those wondering, we are a six employee company... mostly engineers and no receptionist. If you call us, it is generally me who answers the phone. We have been in business since January 1999. I am reminded of Mark Twain: "The reports of my death have been greatly exagerated". I must admit it is flattering, and at times annoying, to be the subject of so much conjecture.

The update...

One of our early customers is loaning us a camera for two weeks. I should have it tomorrow. Because we now have access to a camera in Boston, beta units will not be shipped until I am completely happy with all of the details. THings will also go faster as I will not have to fly to Orange County or Burbank to finalize the last details. Production Canon EF units will be available in the first weeks of January. Reservations received today should ship around the end of January.

Reservations are still open, and still being processed. Form is available at:
http://www.birger.com/cinema_order_form.pdf

I will be off for five days for the holidays, and my girlfriend has made me promise not to bring work with me.

Eric,
Is bluetooth wireless still free?

 

[Erik Widding]

Eric, Is bluetooth wireless still free?

Yes, edited original post.

 

[Fergus Meiklejohn]

erik

total respect

Could you please just send us all a bulk "we have received your email and will process it when we are goddamn good and ready, so backoff.." email please?

I don't know if you've received my order by email or not.. Mail can get blocked by servers, I may have made a hash of sending it etc etc..

If I get that email then I'll be happy and frankly (for me) you can wait until March to send me the mount..

thank you and Merry Christmas

 

[HD Hildebrand]

Production Canon EF units will be available in the first weeks of January. Reservations received today should ship around the end of January.
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Could we also get a little hint on the Nikon progress/ETA as well before you leave on holidays?

 

[Clint Johnson]

Sounding good Eric. I think that what some are worried about is if our reservation got through to you or not? If mine got through then it looks like my mount and camera will both show up around my birthday on January 14th... if it got flagged as spam or if it was bounced then I'd have to re-order which would leave me with a few weeks of lensless Red ownership. I start to tear up just thinking about that and would probably look a lot harder at the Red 18-50mm.

I realize the prioritizing you have to do and I'm not trying to get you to do anything that would take time away from getting the mount ready, just saying where the concern is for some of us.

 

[Jaime Vallés]

Thanks for the update, Erik. As long as it works right when finished, I don't mind delays.

 

[Thor Wixom]

For those wondering, we are a six employee company... mostly engineers and no receptionist. If you call us, it is generally me who answers the phone. We have been in business since January 1999. I am reminded of Mark Twain: "The reports of my death have been greatly exagerated". I must admit it is flattering, and at times annoying, to be the subject of so much conjecture.

The update...

One of our early customers is loaning us a camera for two weeks. I should have it tomorrow. Because we now have access to a camera in Boston, beta units will not be shipped until I am completely happy with all of the details. THings will also go faster as I will not have to fly to Orange County or Burbank to finalize the last details. Production Canon EF units will be available in the first weeks of January. Reservations received today should ship around the end of January.

Reservations (including FREE remote control) are still open, and still being processed. Form is available at:
http://www.birger.com/cinema_order_form.pdf

I will be off for five days for the holidays, and my girlfriend has made me promise not to bring work with me.

Erik,

First off, thanks for the extension on the remote. I will be making my order tomorrow.

Second, thanks for responding. Some of us were getting a little worried.

Third, I'd like to make another request for sample footage from a test shoot. To me, it seems that getting a still lens to behave like cine lens is no small order. Anyone who has felt the "snappy" nature of DSLR focusing knows what I'm talking about.

I (and I'm sure a lot of others) would really like to see a nice slow focus pull and know that it was being controlled by either the remote or the rail mount knob.

It isn't so much that I need proof to order the Birger EOS mount. It's that I need proof to justify passing up my opportunity to purchase Red lenses.

I only have so much budget for glass. It's EITHER Canon (with Birger) or Red.

Red wants my order (including lenses) to be finalized by the 21st. That's 4 days! For any accessories or lenses that I pass on, I have to go to the back of the line.

I have to consider what would happen if A) I passed up my opportunity to get Red Lenses, and B) the Birger EOS mount didn't perform as expected, or was held up in a production delay. It would suck.

So now that you have a Red on loan, please allay these concerns and post some test footage.

If I could see a slow, smooth focus pull from a Birger prototype, I would feel much better about not ordering Red lenses. (I'm sure I'm not the only one in this boat!)

I know this is a lot to ask, Erik. I know you are slammed with orders. I hope you don't hate me for requesting it.

But it sure would be nice.

-Thor

 

[Alexander Christ]

Hi Eric, I Emailed my orders of 2 Canon mounts on 27th November. It would be helpful if you could send us a short confirmation Email to make sure you got our orders and they didn't went into your spam folder.

Thanks and Happy Holidays

 

[David Groundwater]

my god, leave the guy alone...your camera number is over 1000.

so?

there's nothing wrong with wanting some kind of response -which we now have. who on earth are you to dictate to me or anyone else?

you have no idea of why i might need a plan.

this isn't a cult, it's a business.

 

[Greg M]

you didnt get the coolaid?

 

[Teague Kennedy]

Hi Eric, I Emailed my orders of 2 Canon mounts on 27th November. It would be helpful if you could send us a short confirmation Email to make sure you got our orders and they didn't went into your spam folder.

Thanks and Happy Holidays

I sent my order in on 27th also. No email yet, but the funds came out of my bank on dec 19, so I know it got processed.

 

[Paolo Tinari]

I cant help myself but i'm worried now... ordered on the 27th and no charges on my visa from the birgers.

 

[Alexander Christ]

same here!

 

[Erik Widding]

We have only processed 1/3 of the reservations. We are working on them again today. I hope we will have them wrapped up by tomorrow afternoon, as we would like to close out our year before I leave for the holiday.

We have a camera to play with for the next two weeks...:whistling:

Nikon mount is on target for late February. We have been asked by a number of people to provide "dummy" Nikon mounts in the interim. We are considering the request.

 

[HD Hildebrand]

We have only processed 1/3 of the reservations. We are working on them again today. I hope we will have them wrapped up by tomorrow afternoon, as we would like to close out our year before I leave for the holiday.

We have a camera to play with for the next two weeks...:whistling:

Nikon mount is on target for late February. We have been asked by a number of people to provide "dummy" Nikon mounts in the interim. We are considering the request.

Thanks Erik for the update - I wouldn't mind being on that dummy list - oh, excuse me, "dummy" Nikon mount list, as well. My camera should be coming out by end of January'ish.