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Birger Lens Mount Reservations

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Erik Widding

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In honor of Black Friday, the largest shopping day of the year in the US, the Birger Engineering Cinema Lens Mounts for the RED ONE Camera are now available for reservation. Download forms at:

http://www.birger.com/pdf/cinema_order_form.pdf

Reservations are placed with a 20% deposit on a credit card, and are fully refundable prior to the scheduled ship date. The rest of the details are in the form.

I have accepted Ken Corben’s invitation to attend LART on 1 December. I have chosen this event for the public unveiling of the lens mount system from Birger. Over the coming weeks we will announce who our early users are, provide additional feedback as to which lenses are going to offer the best results with each of the mounts, and a great deal more information about the system.

I will do as Jim has, and offer a reward to the believers. Place a reservation and a refundable deposit prior to the public unveiling, and you will receive a free Bluetooth Remote Control with each system purchased.
 
Awesome news Erik! I can't wait to check this out. I'll be putting my order in and my offer to you still stands.

Thanks,
Steve
 
great news - especially the other mount options.
There is no mention on the order form of Image Stabilization support for EF-S, though. What can you tell us about that, Eric?
 
Eric, I do not have a fax machine as I am travelling. Is there a way to order on-line? I do not want to email my credit card detail either.
 
Well, I've got to admit that I'm disappointed that the Birger Nikon Mount (BNM) is not scheduled for delivery until at least March 15 (or later), leaving me without a Nikon lens mount solution from my scheduled camera delivery date--mid-December--until at least some time after the first of the year, as Jim has recently stated but not specified a target date, which will also mean I will probably be forced to buy the RED Nikon Mount as an interim solution that will become useless once the Birger solution is released.

The delay of the BNM wouldn't be so painful, except that I'm out here in the hinterlands with virtually no PL rental options.

Further, I had understood that the BNM would have the capacity to control zooming functions, as well, with the addition of a RED Motor and alternative functionality with the RED SuperGrip.

Assuming that the BNM will not, on its own, control zooming operations, can focus and aperture be ported to the RED SuperGrip so that all three functions will be available solely from the SuperGrip, making the Birger Rail Mount Knob component superfluous?

Or am I confusing the Birger solution with one expected from Curt of View Factor?

Help, Erik/Curt/Jim! Can one or all explain how solutions from the three of you will function cooperatively or competitively? I'm confused.
 
I think you'll find that you'd want Focus+Iris on the left side of the camera, and controll it with your left hand, and have the supergrip on the right side controlling zoom, start/stop and other functions.

It's not a big bonus having everything in one single grip
 
Order placed.
Can you please explain the Rail Mount Knob?

Is this an electronic follow focus knob? Would I need to 3 knobs or does one knob handle all 3 functions?
 
Think it's this one.
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According to the old posts, conrtrollers can be daisychained using the Lemo connectors. A small thumb iris controller would be a nice.
 
Anders--

I guess you're right, so far as splitting the functionality between two hands. But, since I will usually be shooting without an AC--and when I will, would prefer him using the bluetooth unit--and don't have experience shooting with a cine-style focusing config, I still had pictured myself, placing both hands on grip-like handles, rather than the traditional FF wheel attached to the rail.
 
By the way, Anders, you seem to be so fluent in English, and so many on these boards from non-English-speaking countries seem to struggle so with the language. Were you born in Denmark?
 
BillG said:
Well, I've got to admit that I'm disappointed that the Birger Nikon Mount (BNM) is not scheduled for delivery until at least March 15 (or later), leaving me without a Nikon lens mount solution from my scheduled camera delivery date--mid-December--until at least some time after the first of the year, as Jim has recently stated but not specified a target date, which will also mean I will probably be forced to buy the RED Nikon Mount as an interim solution that will become useless once the Birger solution is released.
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Wow, I've been checking this site every day, waiting for this news, but have to agree, March is far too late for my needs. Also, with Nikon such a high priority with so many Red users you'd think Nikon would be a little more of a priority with Birger as well. Seems like a great product, but something about this whole ordeal just keeps on frustrating me. Perhaps I'll just give up and either stick with the manual Nikon mount or go PL.
 
Of course, with Birger having had a big headstart on a Canon Mount with a previous product, I had expected it to be released first, but I was surprised to see Sigma and the Fourthirds (!?!) Mount given priority over the Nikon Mount. Does anybody really use the Fourthirds format? That's Olympus, right?
 
I've ordered now as well... so many questions... but I'll take a leap of faith here.

As to the timing of the delivery... obviously it does us no good to have the mount before our cameras are in, I'm hoping there's a way to coordinate within a week or so of camera delivery...

Regards,
 
All along, since this started, I've had the impression that the Nikon mount is the biggest headache to build for you guys at Birger, like a nightmare you wish went away. Thank you for making good on your promise to make it, though. We're with you all the way. Erik, according to the above statement, the mount goes directly on RED ONE, replacing the PL mount. Now, I'm wondering if those of us who are working with cameras like the HVX200 and JVC HD200 while we wait for our RED One, could make use of it somehow. But I guess that if it goes directly on the camera sans PL mount, that leaves no space to have an adapter made. Would you care to comment? Thank you.
 
jaadgy--

I don't want to sound unappreciative, but the thing is that I had planned to go with RED lenses, until I stumbled across the thread detailing Erik's plans for the Birger Nikon Mount in late July--don't know how I missed it up until then--but I realized I could find a lot better places to invest my cash in my overall system, if I leveraged my already considerable investment in Nikkor glass that I use for my still photo assignments.

Then, in the next couple of months, I discovered that only AF-S versions of Nikkor optics would receive full electronic functionality. But that was cool. I could still buy a couple of the newer AF-S zooms and use them for both digital cinema and stills work and still be way ahead of where the purchase of a couple of RED zooms would leave me.

Then...silence...for months.

What I'm worried about now is that, with such a disparity of delivery dates between the RED ONE and the Birger Nikon Mount, I'll need to make a decision--one way or the other--soon after I take shipment of the camera and, if I go ahead and commit myself to the new Nikkor zooms and Erik then decides that the Nikon mount is too much of a headache or nightmare to design/produce, then I'll be stuck with the new Nikkor glass, the less-than-optimal "dumb" RED Nikon Mount and I'll STILL wind up popping for the RED Zooms. All-in-all, a frustrating, nail-biting three-and-a-half months.
 
BillG said:
jaadgy--
if I go ahead and commit myself to the new Nikkor zooms and Erik then decides that the Nikon mount is too much of a headache or nightmare to design/produce, then I'll be stuck with the new Nikkor glass, the less-than-optimal "dumb" RED Nikon Mount and I'll STILL wind up popping for the RED Zooms. All-in-all, a frustrating, nail-biting three-and-a-half months.
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Bill,
That's exactly how I've been feeling about this whole thing. I sure hope we're wrong. I'm gonna go ahead and purchase new AF-S zooms, and hope this dream comes true in the end.
 
Congratulations Erik.

I'm unsure whether the lens mount includes the camera cables, and mount knob or not. Whatever is cool, but I don't know what I need.. What's the standard setup?
 
fergus said:
Congratulations Erik.

but I don't know what I need.. What's the standard setup?
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"PLACE RESERVATION BY 5PM EST, 30 NOVEMBER 2007; FOR EACH SET OF THE ABOVE ITEMS PURCHASED ($1450), RECEIVE ONE REMOTE FREE! "
I'd say, at the very least, I would recommend the setup that gets you the free 600 dollar remote. =)
 
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