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What video card are you guys using on your editing rigs?

Scott Welsch

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My current setup:

64GB DDR4 RAM
Ryzen 1800x 8 core-16 thread CPU
Samsung 840 SSD
GTX 780Ti 3GB GPU


My .r3d footage won't load more than a few seconds at a time in "full res" in red player and in after effects or premiere forget about it, it will barely play 4k downres footage. Warp stabilizer takes 45 minutes for a 30 second 4k clip.

If I get an AMD 580 will my previewing speeds go up? Because I would think with 64 GB ram and 8 core CPU that I should be fine for previewing but the only bottleneck I can think of is the video card. But on paper the 780ti isn't that much worse than 580 in terms of benchmarks.
 
I have 2 GPUs, but PP only uses one. I didn't get full playback with a 980, but I do now with a 1080Ti.
 
Scott Welsch said:
My current setup:

64GB DDR4 RAM
Ryzen 1800x 8 core-16 thread CPU
Samsung 840 SSD
GTX 780Ti 3GB GPU


My .r3d footage won't load more than a few seconds at a time in "full res" in red player and in after effects or premiere forget about it, it will barely play 4k downres footage. Warp stabilizer takes 45 minutes for a 30 second 4k clip.

If I get an AMD 580 will my previewing speeds go up? Because I would think with 64 GB ram and 8 core CPU that I should be fine for previewing but the only bottleneck I can think of is the video card. But on paper the 780ti isn't that much worse than 580 in terms of benchmarks.
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What kind of .r3d footage are you talking about?
AE and PP are not really famous for taking advantage of a fast GPU.
 
I have an older i7 cpu, but a new GTX 2070. Helium 8k footage is playing real time at resolution set to 1/2. 5k footage plays back real time at full res.
 
Dragon footage doesn't work for some reason. It's incredibly laggy in premiere. I'm not sure what the bottleneck would be other than the GPU.
 
Though I'm certain a certain voice will pop up and say a few things, here's what you should do:

- Nvidia w/ minimum of 8GB of RAM on the GPU, preferably an RTX series card.
- Find a way to navigate to Intel, deeper software and hardware related support outside of the value propositions of AMD.
- Big one, at a minimum get up to 2X SATA SSDs in RAID 0 configuration to read from. You'll likely fine under what you have now for the resolutions and REDCODE RAW Compression Ratios you are using, but you will see benefits slightly once you have more bandwidth, especially on the native REDCODE RAW editing side.
- Have a dedicated output drive, i.e. don't read and write to your working volume. That slows you down.


Your system RAM is what you are currently buffering with, now that the GPU Decode SDK has been released we'll see gains eventually in 3rd party NLEs once they implement that code. You can get a whiff of what to expect in REDCINE-X PRO today via the beta download.

I have zero problems playing back anything below 8K at full debayer with and without the new GPU Decode stuff via an X299 based system, but it's a bit more punch than you've got currently.

For 8K material, big boxes are handling 8K great, with the GPU Decode a lot better on the playback side of things, but again, just RCX for the moment. It's a pretty big deal though and you can really feel the impact it will have once it's really out there.
 
I don't think the PremPro team has had time to code for RED's latest SDK just yet. If it's implemented well, it should be roughly as fast as in RCP-X. My suggestion is the 2080Ti card or P5000 depending on your setup, whether you plan to drive an 8K monitor, data load, etc.

Typically, the first place to test any new RED SDK is in their own tool - RCP-X - and use that as a baseline. Whatever GPU you pick, the more VRAM the better - especially at higher resolutions. Buffer overrun can spike long renders even when storage, compute power, etc are up to the job.

Cheers - #19
 
Here's a fun challenge: what's the best editing workstation you can build for under US$1,000? I bet you could get something pretty darned good. Given that Resolve is available for Linux, you aren't even limited by the OS.
 
Karim D. Ghantous said:
Here's a fun challenge: what's the best editing workstation you can build for under US$1,000?
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Well, you do mention this as a "fun challenge", but in all seriousness.... a working adult with any professional ambition (even if only long term), should budget at least $700 for the GPU alone.

If you don't need VFX/Coloring specs, but just want something for editing and general computer work you could probably build something for $2500?

@Scott your GPU and the alternatives you mention seem a bit under specced compared to your other PC parts that are more up to date. Why not reach for at least a 2070, they sit at $499?
 
Misha Engel said:
What kind of .r3d footage are you talking about?
AE and PP are not really famous for taking advantage of a fast GPU.
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eh?

Premiere regularly uses 100% GPU even prior to the new SDK being implemented.

AE though, yeah.
 
I'm using a 1070 GTX and it handles Raven footage at half debayer, decently. This summer I'll rebuild my whole rig from the ground up with an RTX and SSDs.
 
AndreeMarkefors said:
If you don't need VFX/Coloring specs, but just want something for editing and general computer work you could probably build something for $2500?
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Ay caramba! Surely if you're dealing with 5K and less, you could bring that figure down?

Gabriel Llantino said:
1060 Graphics with an i7 cpu has been my workhorse for the past 3 years with RED Scarlet W footage :)
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Joshua Miner said:
I'm using a 1070 GTX and it handles Raven footage at half debayer, decently. This summer I'll rebuild my whole rig from the ground up with an RTX and SSDs.
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Does all this software (I'm mainly thinking of Resolve) recognize multiple GPUs? Because, it might make sense (or not) to buy a second GPU rather than to replace it with a more powerful one.
 
Karim D. Ghantous said:
Ay caramba! Surely if you're dealing with 5K and less, you could bring that figure down?
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I don't know what the cheapest PC you can build would look like. My question is more along the lines of: what kind of user, active on these boards, shooting RED, would aim to build a $1000 workstation?

If you sped every last $ on the camera, or even take out a loan... there are other options if you just want to get the creative juices flowing and test ideas:

P4K2TB.jpg


Dang, only 2903 minutes of raw recording left on my '2TB media card' that I don't even have to offload, since I can just edit straight off the SSD. =)

Please realise that this is all tongue-in-cheek—and not a 1:1 comparison—but there is some truth to it too.
 
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