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What large 4k computer screen does 50hz

Björn Benckert

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Trying to find new screens for our 3D dudes. Until now they been working on large / 32" Cinema displays. But those are getting quite old and I kind of hate them as they run with that little power box and as we have them quite far from the machine room they need DVI2 extenders that cost quite a bit and is quite flaky and we need to run seperate cable for speakers or run speaker of from the usb... which they need for their tablet mouse and keyboard.

So Im looking to find large HDMI2 UHD screens that does 50Hz and has built in speakers. Large would be annoying above 30" but I guess 40" would be about optimal. Dell has one but it says it only do 30Hz. Im not sure as I remember that can be worked around atleast on mac but on pc I'm not sure.

Colors are not so relevant but sure a good screen is always better. I use the 5k LG screen on my mac and love it but that one is TB3 and that does not do well with long extentions.


Also need to find HDMI2 15m cables preferably active onces.... does it even exist?
 
jussi rovanpera said:
40" UHD TV's would have HDMI, support 50hz, and have speakers...
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But as I understand most TV´s got quite a bit of lag. Simply can not be used with a mouse without driving you insane.
 
Björn Benckert said:
Trying to find new screens for our 3D dudes. Until now they been working on large / 32" Cinema displays. But those are getting quite old and I kind of hate them as they run with that little power box and as we have them quite far from the machine room they need DVI2 extenders that cost quite a bit and is quite flaky and we need to run seperate cable for speakers or run speaker of from the usb... which they need for their tablet mouse and keyboard.

So Im looking to find large HDMI2 UHD screens that does 50Hz and has built in speakers. Large would be annoying above 30" but I guess 40" would be about optimal. Dell has one but it says it only do 30Hz. Im not sure as I remember that can be worked around atleast on mac but on pc I'm not sure.

Colors are not so relevant but sure a good screen is always better. I use the 5k LG screen on my mac and love it but that one is TB3 and that does not do well with long extentions.


Also need to find HDMI2 15m cables preferably active onces.... does it even exist?
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Display

http://www.pro.sony.eu/pro/lang/en/eu/product/professional-displays-bravia/fw-43xe8001/specifications/#specifications

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=FW-43XE8001

HDMI Cable

https://www.lindy.co.uk/cables-adapters-c1/audio-video-c107/15m-active-1080p-4k-hdmi-cable-with-ethernet-p7298

https://www.amazon.co.uk/XO-PLATINUM-High-Speed-ETHERNET-PANASONIC/dp/B002MFWJAU?th=1
 
Misha Engel said:
Display

http://www.pro.sony.eu/pro/lang/en/eu/product/professional-displays-bravia/fw-43xe8001/specifications/#specifications

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=FW-43XE8001

HDMI Cable

https://www.lindy.co.uk/cables-adapters-c1/audio-video-c107/15m-active-1080p-4k-hdmi-cable-with-ethernet-p7298

https://www.amazon.co.uk/XO-PLATINUM-High-Speed-ETHERNET-PANASONIC/dp/B002MFWJAU?th=1
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Thanks for the links.

But those screens are TV´s no? Normally such even professional ones comes with a lot of lag, do you know if these got about the same input lag as computer screens or TV´s?

Cable looks almost too good to be true, it´s the only 15m length HdMI 2.0 cable I found that claims to do UHD 60Hz.
 
Björn Benckert said:
Thanks for the links.

But those screens are TV´s no? Normally such even professional ones comes with a lot of lag, do you know if these got about the same input lag as computer screens or TV´s?

Cable looks almost too good to be true, it´s the only 15m length HdMI 2.0 cable I found that claims to do UHD 60Hz.
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You're welcome,

No, they are professional display's. I don't know about the lag, just give sony a call or e-mail them.
It's an active HDMI cable so the length and the speed is not a problem, we us a 10 meter passive HDMI cable on our 4k LG OLED, works perfect. (it's a different story for DisplayPort).
 
Misha Engel said:
You're welcome,

No, they are professional display's. I don't know about the lag, just give sony a call or e-mail them.
It's an active HDMI cable so the length and the speed is not a problem, we us a 10 meter passive HDMI cable on our 4k LG OLED, works perfect. (it's a different story for DisplayPort).
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Do you get 60Hz with your 10 meter cable_ tested it here now with a 10 meter really expansive cable... no picture in 60Hz but in 30Hz, the guys does not like it. So need active cables I guess.

4k LG OLED? is that a computer screen or TV screen? does it work to use as a computer screen? Seams like there is no good oled computer screens priced well for HDMI, the apple/LG one with TB3 is the only one I found but we dont have TB3 on all computers and those also get problem with cable length.
 
Björn Benckert said:
But as I understand most TV´s got quite a bit of lag. Simply can not be used with a mouse without driving you insane.
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Nope. It works and nothing dramatical. But make sure you check the individual models for lag.


Björn Benckert said:
4k LG OLED? is that a computer screen or TV screen? does it work to use as a computer screen? Seams like there is no good oled computer screens priced well for HDMI, the apple/LG one with TB3 is the only one I found but we dont have TB3 on all computers and those also get problem with cable length.
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OLED + UI = Burn in
 
Hrvoje Simic said:
Nope. It works and nothing dramatical. But make sure you check the individual models for lag.




OLED + UI = Burn in
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Your right we now hooked up my 65 in oled LG to the pc HDM port and no lag what so ever. And picture is stunning compared to all shitty Ezio and other screens we now tested. Only problem there is size. They guys would love to have 40" LG oled´s but there is no such thing as anything smaller than 55 inch oleds around here (Stockholm) that I can find. Is there even small 4k oled screens exept for the yberly expansive sony ref screens and such?


First we figured we just get 55 inch LG screens but when testing to put a 55" inch screen on their table the top of the screen simply ends up as too high up. We would need a different table with a ditch to make it work.
 
Size is not the only problem, burn-in is another. :)
There are 40" 4K LCDs...
 
Hrvoje Simic said:
Size is not the only problem, burn-in is another. :)
There are 40" 4K LCDs...
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Tried few will try some more but what we tested so far was actually worse than our 10 year old cinema displays. Then updating did not fee that appealing.

The LCD´s we tested had uneven backlight and problem with banding. But will test the Qled from samsung on monday to see if that works better.

The moster HDMI cables where the ones working best for us so far, or actually the only one that did a 60hz 10 meter without flitching .
 
Björn Benckert said:
Do you get 60Hz with your 10 meter cable_ tested it here now with a 10 meter really expansive cable... no picture in 60Hz but in 30Hz, the guys does not like it. So need active cables I guess.

4k LG OLED? is that a computer screen or TV screen? does it work to use as a computer screen? Seams like there is no good oled computer screens priced well for HDMI, the apple/LG one with TB3 is the only one I found but we dont have TB3 on all computers and those also get problem with cable length.
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Yes it works perfect with 60 Hz 10 meter, we use it for color correction (and we watch football on it).
For the HDMI specs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
 
Stacey Spears said:
To reduce latency on a TV, enable game mode.
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I found on the older 4k screen I had the lag was simply too much no matter what, while my lg oled is super responsive. But the LG oleds are 55" as smallest size and that simply makes the screens too high. The guys would need new a table where the screens could sit lower or they would get neck strains from looking to far up. Changing table believe it or not is not doable, they like it as is. A big as table with 3 guys on each side. 55" looks also stupidly large and divide the table like a wall If we put 6 such monsters up there so needs to be 40" or less so they can look / talk between the screens.
 
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