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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

What does DIT stand for?

Jeff Kilgroe said:
Haha... I know that probably came across a bit brash at the end there. But I can assure you, when I call someone my bitch on a set, I mean it with the utmost respect. In fact, if I appoint you as my bitch, that means I trust you implicitly and expect you to work at my side so that everything gets done right. :beer:

And I've spent plenty of time being someone's bitch myself. I often get delegated that role when I get hired for a production and all they want from me is my camera kit and to play "bitch" to the director as a technical advisor or consultant and by the way, they would really appreciate it if I could also grab those light stands off their truck since I'm unloading all of my gear anyway.
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lol...no worries...I remember when I was a cam trainee and I got to work with DOP Mark Irwin. While we were watching rushes at lunch, he pointed to my hands on the screen as I was slating, and said ...'There, you see? You finally got the framing right. That's my good little bitch." and then patted me on the back as he walked out.
As cool as that was at the moment:embarassed: that's when I realized, I was the bitch, and pretty much would ALWAYS be the bitch, until I had his gig or I was creating my own projects, and that the process wasn't going to happen anytime soon.
So, now, I'm a goooood little 'bitch' :cool:. I work as often as possible, learn as much as I can, and paddle on with a smile on my face and my eyes and ears wiiiiide open. :thumbsup:
And I absolutely believe that I'm correct in thinking that the next logical step for me is to take the 7 day workshop in LA. It can only help me right?
 
Well... 600 needs to clarify this position... They need a digital Loader Position. A 1st AC is hired because he has technical expertise with the camera system, A loader doesn't always need to know the camera 100%. DIT is not as specific a term and many people are getting into 600 as DIT when the only thing they know how to do is Copy Files and open things in RedAlert! <---- 'A Green DIGI - Loader' All of these things Checksums, file-copy, Hardware repair, software install / repair, Timecards, etc... is the job of a Loader. I want to Pull Focus, not sit in a tent... I can't if I come in as a DIT. I can only operate / DP from there.

600 will have a classification for Digi-Loader that is comparable to the rate of a 2nd AC.

I'm not saying that DIT doesn't fully cover the range of tasks that some of us do on set... I'm saying File Monkeys need to be let into 600 as a Loader not DIT.
 
I don't think file monkeys should be let in at all. There is much more to the job than downloading, a good DIT will be consulting the DP about proper exposure, contrast range even fill ratios. Not to mention doing on set grades or other "creative" services that assist the DP is making critical image decisions that are applicable in post. The DIT position is most definitely above the 2nd ACs position, depending on the experience (with the camera) of the DP it may even be at the level of the operators.
 
Brook Willard said:
There is a lot of work being done right now to iron out the specific duties of a Digital Imaging Technician as applied to data-based shows. Stay tuned.
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The only reason I'm not a 600 DIT is because I want to pull focus. I'm beyond a Qualified DIT, but if I can come in as a Digi-Loader... then I can move up to 1st AC and then Op and DP.
 
Evin Grant said:
I don't think file monkeys should be let in at all. There is much more to the job than downloading, a good DIT will be consulting the DP about proper exposure, contrast range even fill ratios. Not to mention doing on set grades or other "creative" services that assist the DP is making critical image decisions that are applicable in post. The DIT position is most definitely above the 2nd ACs position, depending on the experience (with the camera) of the DP it may even be at the level of the operators.
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Thats exactly what I mean... ANYONE can hand over $7500 to 600 and become a DIT tomorrow, it shouldn't be non-roster that way. Thats why Digi-loader fits the bill a little bit more. You must have experience to do this job... I will take DIT positions where I bring a Large Rig, do Color Timing, LTO, Offline Files, and even Dailies and send them to Post at the end of the Day. That's definitely more than a Loader, and re-rating is necessary. Thats more related to DIT, instead of only copying Files and sending to the Post House-- Thats a Loader.
 
Damn Irritating Thread :thumbsup:
 
Thanks, but no thanks.

Thanks, but no thanks.

I think I started a war with this one. Sorry guys, I'm just a 29 year old with Alzheimer's. Next time I won't ask, I promise.

Alok
 
Damned Immortal Thread now.... Thought we already killed it.
 
DEAD IN TRANSLATION.

DIT is a dead word to me.

People with real skills should put other titles on your business cards now.

Let's find a new title for our self?

Tek
 
Evin Grant said:
I don't think file monkeys should be let in at all. There is much more to the job than downloading, a good DIT will be consulting the DP about proper exposure, contrast range even fill ratios. Not to mention doing on set grades or other "creative" services that assist the DP is making critical image decisions that are applicable in post. The DIT position is most definitely above the 2nd ACs position, depending on the experience (with the camera) of the DP it may even be at the level of the operators.
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That's why the position of DIT is moot on Red shoots. It is a "baking in a look" in video position and has nothing lost on a single camera Red set.

We need to train our 2nd's/loaders to do proper downloads, learn to expose the image ourselves and move on from there.

DIT is necessary for video and DP's that need a crutch. It is the beauty of RAW capture that there's no need for a DIT.
 
Florian Stadler said:
That's why the position of DIT is moot on Red shoots. It is a "baking in a look" in video position and has nothing lost on a single camera Red set.

We need to train our 2nd's/loaders to do proper downloads, learn to expose the image ourselves and move on from there.

DIT is necessary for video and DP's that need a crutch. It is the beauty of RAW capture that there's no need for a DIT.
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As a DP and a DIT I couldn't agree less.
 
on shoots without a 2nd, I usually rope the DIT into slating and other timecode logging duties.
 
What do I do if I am in Boston prepping a 30 million dollar feature with 2 REDs and the producers only want one person doing the RED Tech/ Data Wrangling? How do I find someone to fly in to do the work and help me?

I wish we could have a separate DIT and Data person but that will never happen. Cheap mentality.

Peter

Peter Lyons Collister, ASC
 
I'm talking about single camera shoots. 2-4 cameras is a different story.

I like to organize the crew like this:

single camera: Operator, 1st AC, 2nd AC, Digital Loader, VTR. On lower budgets, 2nd/DL do double duty

2 cameras: 2 Ops, 2 firsts, 2 2nds, 1 Digital Loader, VTR

3 cameras and up: 1-2 Digital loader, 1 DIT, 2 VTR depending on complexity of project/deliverables
 
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