Weapon wish

[Robert Horwell]

WISH LIST:

4:3 Sensor for TRUE ANAMORPHIC NO CROPPING. If it doesn't have this i'm really not interested. I already ordered my Alexa Mini mainly for this reason and it's size. Dragon already has the size benefit.

HIGHER FPS: 300 minimum at full res.

Useable connectors: HD-SDI x 2

2 x VIDEO OUT: EVF and TOUCH SCREEN.

XLR IN: Proper Audio connectors please.

Audio board: I need to keep my sound guys happy, they always cringe when we are shooting Red and try to record on-board audio.

TC: Timecode that is solid. It still slips.

Good Luck Red looking forward to NAB.

 

[Robert Horwell]

If one of the major manufacturers (all it takes is one) implements the delete clips feature into their camera, I guerentee every other manufacturer will follow suit and we will all wonder how we ever managed without it. I refuse to believe that at this point in time this feature is not available because it might cause reliability issues. To me this is almost a no brainer.

PANASONIC.

 

[Phil Holland]

WISH LIST:

4:3 Sensor for TRUE ANAMORPHIC NO CROPPING. If it doesn't have this i'm really not interested. I already ordered my Alexa Mini mainly for this reason and it's size. Dragon already has the size benefit.

I have a question about this as it comes up time to time.

If in the future Red releases a larger sensor and it's sticking to the general DCI 1.9:1 standard they have been going with, will this effect your desire to have a 4:3 sensor? Even though it would be a 4:3 crop of that wider/larger sensor?

Just curious.

 

[David Battistella]

Audio board: I need to keep my sound guys happy, they always cringe when we are shooting Red and try to record on-board audio.

that is myth. They just want to get the double system audio recorder rental or not be tethered. The REd EPIC records audio beautifully.

Battistella

 

[David Battistella]

I'd rather have DCI 1.91 than a window of that on A FF sensor.

How do you find the anamorphic modes on dragon phil? I Dont know what percentage of red is shot anamorphic, but I think the DCI compliant layout is making the most of the usable pixels, in a format we capture most often. I'd rather that than "wasting pixels" by cutting out WS from 4x3.

battistella

 

[Phil Holland]

I'd rather have DCI 1.91 than a window of that on A FF sensor.

How ow do you find the anamorphic modes on dragon phil? I DNG know what percentage of red is shot anamorphic, but I think the dei compliant layout is making the most of the usable pixels, in a format we capture most often. I'd rather that than "wasting pixels by cutting out.

battistella

Dragon 6K 6:5 (unsqueezed 2.40:1) utilizes the maximum sensor height which is the equivalent of the Academy 35mm Frame. However, Dragon's height is lower than Super 35mm 4-Perf Full Aperture. If it was that tall you'd get a bit more resolution in the X and Y axis as well as a slight FOV increase. The resolution is rather high shooting anamorphic with Dragon, which is nice. It's one of the things the big anamorphic guys out there look for.

If I had anything to say about it, I think Red should stick to 1.90:1 or 2:1 moving forward to larger sensors. DCI being "Full Frame" and UHD 4K being a crop of that. There's literally no benefit of having just a 4:3 sensor if Red increases the sensor size. It should always be some wider variant in my opinion.

 

[Robert Horwell]

I have a question about this as it comes up time to time.

If in the future Red releases a larger sensor and it's sticking to the general DCI 1.9:1 standard they have been going with, will this effect your desire to have a 4:3 sensor? Even though it would be a 4:3 crop of that wider/larger sensor?

Just curious.

PHIL, if the maths works and i get the same anamorphic ratio i get from the Alexa 4:3 i would be happy.,weather it crops the 4;3 from from a larger sensor really makes no difference to me, i know we can get a 4:3 frame similar to academy already but i need to image the entire Anamorphic field of view. I have a couple of very lovely sets of Anamorphic glass, they only really fulfill their potential on The 4:3 Alexa ( at the moment ) or 35mm Film.

 

[Robert Horwell]

that is myth. They just want to get the double system audio recorder rental or not be tethered. The REd EPIC records audio beautifully.

Battistella

I'm not a sound guy David, but they are never happy about it, they hate the little mini jack connectors.

 

[Robert Horwell]

There's a lot of Anamorphic going down here n the UK and Europe, i have direct experience of that. Anamorphic is in demand. I think that this is reflected by the amount of new glass from major manufacturers. I know you know who they are but for those who don't Zeiss, Angenieux, Cooke and of coarse there are others still pushing out new anamorphic sets, Hawk, Scorpion i also know of others who are developing and on their way with anamorphic zooms.

 

[David Battistella]

I'm not a sound guy David, but they are never happy about it, they hate the little mini jack connectors.

I can totally understand why. Those are not the best solution, but the actual recorded sound quality is excellent!

Battistella

 

[Robert Horwell]

also i would add to my wish list:

Global Shutter

Internal ND

 

[David Battistella]

Frame summing doesn't really work or give you great results. It would be rad to essentially leave the shutter open for a 30 second exposure to gather more light. Or to use it to create a motion drag in a still. Similar to what you can do on a DSLR, GoPro etc.

For timelapse and photo purposes.

I see. You want a bulb mode exactly like a dslr. I think because of the way the sensor electronics read write speeds are set up and optimized for motion capture this can not be emulated. They have simulated this in the summing modes and you can get long streaking effects, but not exactly as film and or dslr.

But, for that exact specific use, you can use DSLR but I don't think it would be nearly as clean as frame averaging, where I have been able to shoot 250 ISO at 5.6 in darkness and create waterfall effects, etc.

battistella

 

[Paul E. McCarthy]

Has anyone noticed the new firmware update for the $8000 Sony FS 7.

It Can shoot 4k OR Full Sensor 1080 prores non windowed.

THIS HAS TO GO INTO THE NEXT DRAGON UPDATE!!!!!! Enough is enough, seems like Sony is really listening. Camera competition is at an all time high and all the competitors can do this,

Alexa, Amira, Alexa Mini, Sony FS7, F5, F55 can all shoot 4k or Non Windowed 1080.



Trust me every "producer" in NYC is going to buy this camera and make us shoot with it.

Do the math 4 Dragon package rentals = 1 FS 7

 

[Jake Wilganowski]

Yes scaled raw at high fps would be an awesome treat

 

[Jeffrey Loewe]

I see. You want a bulb mode exactly like a dslr. I think because of the way the sensor electronics read write speeds are set up and optimized for motion capture this can not be emulated. They have simulated this in the summing modes and you can get long streaking effects, but not exactly as film and or dslr.

But, for that exact specific use, you can use DSLR but I don't think it would be nearly as clean as frame averaging, where I have been able to shoot 250 ISO at 5.6 in darkness and create waterfall effects, etc.

battistella

Doesn't have to be a "bulb" mode necessarily. But yes that is the effect/control that would be awesome to have.

I don't think it should really matter most DSLR's are using a CMOS sensor still. I mean the A7S, GoPro4, and GH4 all accomplish this feat decently well and they're all more video driven. I guess my point is I love DSLR's. But how amazing would it be to have an all in 1 camera that really puts to rest the need of a SLR.

I know it's unlikely, and not many seem to want this but it would be something i'd pay extra for if it was doable inside the RED camera system.

 

[Stacey Spears]

Doesn't have to be a "bulb" mode necessarily. But yes that is the effect/control that would be awesome to have.

Would be nice if we could some how use the motion mount in time lapse mode to ramp up or down the ND level. Especially during a day-to-night time lapse.

 

[David Battistella]

Would be nice if we could some how use the motion mount in time lapse mode to ramp up or down the ND level. Especially during a day-to-night time lapse.

That is a cool idea. The other possibility is fool control to do an iris move over time and I have mentioned that to michael.

Battistella

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

Would be nice if we could some how use the motion mount in time lapse mode to ramp up or down the ND level. Especially during a day-to-night time lapse.

So this is already 100% possible now on Dragon with external software using RCP protocol. Not rocket science.

if I wasn't pushing Mikael to fry much bigger fish in time for NAB - I'd suggest something like this ... set a "baseline" exposure for the time lapse - and then, use the histogram values (which are transmitted over RCP and can be monitored) to calculate a compensate with Motion Mount ND value adjustments.

It could obviously also be done in firmware. (set a "base line" exposure for the time lapse - check a box that says something like "Auto Adjust Motion Mount ND".

 

[Daniel Kelly Brown]

Would be nice if we could some how use the motion mount in time lapse mode to ramp up or down the ND level. Especially during a day-to-night time lapse.

Mentioned that idea earlier in this thread, glad to hear others are interested in such a feature. It would be so amazing if Red cracked the holy grail of time lapse once and for all!

 

[Elan Gunos]

I wish the weapon can record audio similar to a Zaxcom or a Sound Device recorder. I also wish Weapon has more resolution than IMAX. You can do it guys! I believe in you. Don't let us down man.