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Two new pro sound recorders announced: Zaxcom Nova ($5K)& Sound Devices Scorpio ($9K)

I use a MixPre-3. I could use that TC output in the MixPre-3 II... Hmmm
 
Sound for Video Session: Sound Devices MixPre-10 II, 6 II, and 3 II Series Recorders




By
Curtis Judd Audio







n this week's live Sound for Video Session, We talk about the just announced Sound Devices MixPre II Series of recorders. Sound Devices has added 32 bit float wav recording which they claim enables recording of 142dB of dynamic range. In addition, The 3 and 6 now both have 192kHz sample rate support, all three have USB backup copy capability, adjustable limiters, and 10 second pre-roll.

Sample 32-bit float files from MixPre II: https://www.sounddevices.com/sample-3...

Explanation of the benefits of 32-bit float audio recording: https://www.sounddevices.com/32-bit-f...

Gotham Sound's Summary/Comparison of the new MixPre II models: https://www.gothamsound.com/news/mixp...

Gear discussed in this session:

Sound Devices MixPre 10 II - B&H: https://bhpho.to/30Um9UV

Sound Devices MixPre 6 II - B&H: https://bhpho.to/30Lq5Hk

Sound Devices MixPre 3 II - B&H: https://bhpho.to/30KaAzb

Copyright 2019 by Curtis Judd
 
Sound Devices - Mix Pre II - Initial Thoughts & Impressions!




By Michael Wynne






Sound Devices recently announced the Mix Pre II series featuring 32-Bit Float Recording, 142 dB of Dynamic Range, Internal Timecode Generator, and Recording up to 192 kHz. Is 32-Bit Float Recording the Future of production sound delivery workflows?
 
Sound Devices Mix Pre Series 2 Pre Discussion




By Video Mantis



On today's Vault Talk, we go over the newly announced Sound Devices Mix Pre Series 2 Recorders. They are not available for demo or purchase yet, but the statistics have been released, and Matt Brodnick and I are here to go over all the features and 32bit floating myths that are out there!
 
Whelp, didn't buy the MixPre 6 II, but did buy the MixPre 10 II earlier today.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2BMm-LHyrU/

Quick thoughts, works exactly like the 10 from before with the added benefits of floating 32-bit depth recording, which is why I'm interested in it. Early thoughts, very impressed with what that adds into the equation in terms of a massive record-able range. For "us", here it is feeding timecode to RED Monstro 8K VV.

I got grips about the 3, 6, and why I went with the 10 (touch on that in the Instagram post); but overall with what it does as it's core job, pretty damn impressed.
 
Thanks for the detailed info Phil, good to have the hands-on confirmation that the timecode and 32-bit recording implementation are up to the usual SoundDevices standards. Good to have those connection/card-slot gripes mentioned too, for people to factor in when deciding which model they might want to go with.
 
Phil Holland said:
Whelp, didn't buy the MixPre 6 II, but did buy the MixPre 10 II earlier today.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2BMm-LHyrU/

Quick thoughts, works exactly like the 10 from before with the added benefits of floating 32-bit depth recording, which is why I'm interested in it. Early thoughts, very impressed with what that adds into the equation in terms of a massive record-able range. For "us", here it is feeding timecode to RED Monstro 8K VV.

I got grips about the 3, 6, and why I went with the 10 (touch on that in the Instagram post); but overall with what it does as it's core job, pretty damn impressed.
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A bit more expensive... but with TC, 32bit, 132db dynamic range and the best preamp out there is the Sonosax SX-R4+ (if you are outside the US due to abusive patent regulations ;-)) .

PS: Dynamic range isn't equal to sound fidelity. How the sircuitry are made from powering to output makes the difference in sound fidelity.
 
Jon Dishler said:
New Mix Pre series II just announced with some goodies like timecode and 32 bit floating audio (infinite). https://www.sounddevices.com/mixpre/
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In my opinion in the low low budget arena then the Zoom F Series clearly had the lead when it comes to be best purchase for a field recorder for any aspiring PSM.

But lately Sound Devices has been fighting back hard, especially with these new 2nd Generation recorders then they've almost closed the gap with the Zoom F Series that they used to be lagging behind with. I'd still give the edge to Zoom F series to recommend buying, but it is a very close call now!
 
Phil Holland said:
Ordered one of the new units, landing here after the holiday weekend, likely Wednesday. Will be testing all the timecode related jazz. Might pick up a new wireless sync kit too.
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Do you ever still use your Zaxcom Maxx?

Patrick Tresch said:
Now 32bit float will kill the mixer job...
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You are very very sadly mistaken if you think that, are you're waaaaaay undervaluing and misunderstanding the Mixer's job.

We do so so so much more than just set the gain right.

This is like saying "all a 1st AC does is make an image sharp"

Well no, they do waaaaaaaaaay more than that! And no matter how good AF gets, there will still be an important role for a 1st AC on a film set.

Patrick Tresch said:
It's like having an 8k sensor and some Nikon AI Glass in front of it. (is it even comparable?).
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That might be a bit silly with 8K, but a 4K camera + Nikon AI glass is a sweet combo for some!


Akin A said:
I use a MixPre-3. I could use that TC output in the MixPre-3 II... Hmmm
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That is an easy work around? Just use two timecode boxes with the MixPre3 Gen 1 (jammed to each other, one attached, one detached).
 
Patrick Tresch said:
A bit more expensive... but with TC, 32bit, 132db dynamic range and the best preamp out there is the Sonosax SX-R4+ (if you are outside the US due to abusive patent regulations ;-)) .

PS: Dynamic range isn't equal to sound fidelity. How the sircuitry are made from powering to output makes the difference in sound fidelity.
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A friend has the only Sonosax SX-R4+ in the country, and he loves how it sounds, he reckons it sounds way better than Sound Devices.

And certainly from a features perspective, it seems to pack more into a very small form factor than anything else on the market! (at least until the Zaxcom Nova starts shipping? Which is also a very compact field recorder)

I've been tempted by it, but Sonosax is quite pricey. Got a Zoom F8n instead, and now a Zaxcom Maxx


Phil Holland said:
Whelp, didn't buy the MixPre 6 II, but did buy the MixPre 10 II earlier today.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2BMm-LHyrU/

Quick thoughts, works exactly like the 10 from before with the added benefits of floating 32-bit depth recording, which is why I'm interested in it. Early thoughts, very impressed with what that adds into the equation in terms of a massive record-able range. For "us", here it is feeding timecode to RED Monstro 8K VV.

I got grips about the 3, 6, and why I went with the 10 (touch on that in the Instagram post); but overall with what it does as it's core job, pretty damn impressed.
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In my eyes the best thing about the MixPre10 Gen2 is the BIG PRICE DROP it got! Does make it price competitive again against the competition.
 
David Peterson said:
You are very very sadly mistaken if you think that, are you're waaaaaay undervaluing and misunderstanding the Mixer's job.
We do so so so much more than just set the gain right.
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You are right David I understand the job of a good mixer. But I’m afraid that this tech will push the trend to fill even more tracks for the post without adjusting (mixing and even listening to) them on the shoot. I've had as teacher some great mixers like Antoine Bonfanti and Luc Yersin.
 
Sound Devices MixPre II Series with Paul Isaacs



By Curtis Judd





Sound Devices recently announced an update to their MixPre series of recorders. The update brings some impressive new features including wide dynamic range recording (up to 142dB), 32-bit float recording, backup to USB Drive, longer pre-roll times, increased output levels on the MixPre 10 balanced outputs, and more. In this episode, we talk with Paul about the new features and where they'll be most useful.

Multistage analog-to-digital conversion patent: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Pa...

Sample 32 bit float files from MixPre II series: https://www.sounddevices.com/sample-3...

Comparison Chart of MixPre II Series models: https://cdn.sounddevices.com/wp-conte...

MixPre II FAQ: https://www.sounddevices.com/mixpre-i...

MixPre II 32-bit Float Files Explained: https://www.sounddevices.com/32-bit-f...

Gear discussed and used in this episode:

Sound Devices MixPre Series II recorders:
B&H: https://bhpho.to/30IzGP4

(I used the MixPre-10T first generation to record this session)
 
Sound Devices 833 Mixer/Recorder – Newsshooter at IBC 2019


By Newsshooter







Sound Devices MixPre Series II – Newsshooter at IBC 2019




By Newsshooter



 
Sound Devices 833 Location Mixer/Recorder - Gearslutz @ IBC 2019




By
Gearslutz



 
Sound Devices MixPre II Is Capable of 32-bit Audio Recording




By Cinema5D



 
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