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This is just terrifying.

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This post will likely be removed but for those whom do read it, i am being genuine and fair.

This is terrifying for me.

Wooden camera has simple SAVED ME multiple times and I don't know how else to say it. THEY have better delivery, customer service and even products along with price across the board.
You cannot beat that.
This sucks most for us the consumer who needs and depended on Wooden Camera.

Real world situations and productions I have been in a jam 4 times now where I needed accessories as fast as possible and RED was my #1 choice to go to first.
Each time i was not only disappointed but at times felt like screwed.

Either it was on BACKORDER which for years now has been one of REDs biggest disappointments RED is notorious for this.
or
It would take multiple days to process and get the order shipped even if i paid overnight shipping that did not matter, just shit out of luck.
or
it was a product not requested by the client as the previous RED products have broken and lost faith with consumers so there have have decided to look in a new direction.

Element Technica used to be the solution but they have focused more on 3D and done very well in their company, good job but no longer are they a direct solution for those of us under pressure to pull a job off.

We all love RED in so many ways and that love far out wins any 3rd party manufacture.
But some of my jobs have only been possible by the help of Wooden Camera
Simple as that.


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Yeah, I get it and your POV is valid as much as RED's is. But they did gank the RED designs bit for bit and tweaked them to sell as their own products. That's a bit of a no-no in America, which is why nobody in their right mind does it here and it's all the rage in Asia.
 
The reason RED is slower is because they have 2 hurdles - 1) DESIGN and 2) PRODUCTION. Guys like Wooden Camera can just skip directly to PRODUCTION by ripping off the RED designs. It's faster, but not right.
 
Yousuf Abbasi said:
The reason RED is slower is because they have 2 hurdles - 1) DESIGN and 2) PRODUCTION. Guys like Wooden Camera can just skip directly to PRODUCTION by ripping off the RED designs. It's faster, but not right.
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Please do not say that Wooden Camera is ripping off RED designs like it is a fact. It's not a fact. RED is alleging this. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. It's very possible that RED could lose the lawsuit and be proven wrong. It's also possible the two parties could reach a settlement. RED has every right to pursue this lawsuit. Wooden Camera has every right to defend themselves.
 
Anybody else see a similarity between Picatinny rails and SWAT rails? Wouldn't the copyright owner of that design have the right to sue RED?

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Yousuf Abbasi said:
Brad- I am simply basing this on the picture vs. picture comparison of RED Patented products: http://cinescopophilia.com/red-sues-wooden-camera/ (you judge for yourself...)
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Honestly I see some differences in the RED and WC products. MadCatz makes video game controllers for PS3, XBOX, etc. They look similar, and I'm sure they didn't spend months researching how to make controllers. To me the view factor cage looks more similar to the red cage http://www.viewfactor.net/products/epic-scarlet-acc.html, but whatever.
I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on the internet. It's not my place to decide who is right and wrong. This is between RED and WC. I'm not placing blame on either party.
 
You're probably right about the viewfactor cage.. and its VF's choice to not exercise legal action. On the other hand, RED has chosen to take action with respect to their line of products, which at this point have not been charged with patent infringement by any other company (to my knowledge).
 
Does that mean VF and Brook are going to Sue RED for copying their original design?
Does it go both ways?
 
I can't believe there is so many threads on this issue, can't you guys keep it all in one thread? No probably not, there will most likely be 10 more next week. BOOOOOO. You can tell a fool by his many words.
 
Jon Jones said:
I can't believe there is so many threads on this issue, can't you guys keep it all in one thread? No probably not, there will most likely be 10 more next week. BOOOOOO. You can tell a fool by his many words.
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You can't keep it up in one thread because RED moderators delete them..you'll see this one disappear real soon.
 
Right now, there are at least three threads about this, none of them deleted or closed. i'll shut down this thread, as this was posted last.

I'll quote Jarred from the other thread:

Jarred Land said:
I can't obviously say much, but I will say that our legal team has been in contact with Wooden camera since last year trying to address these issues, it did not happen overnight as you laid it out in your post, which I think is important to correct and for people to understand.

We are aware that we are going to look like the bad guys here... no way around it. We are sticking up for something we believe passionately about, protection of design and innovation, and unfortunately sometimes it comes down to this.. and nobody really wins. And yes.. sometimes this happens to our friends.. Unfortunately enforcement needs to be done, as if you do not enforce infringement, any patent or trademark you own can be overturned.
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