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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Third Party item for cooling the RED

Here in Phoenix I've found that anything temperature wise over 100 degrees your going to have heat issues. Plan ahead. Shade or no shade it doesn't matter- RED does not like hot air being sucked into it's core. Not sure what RED's actual heat threshold is, but for us in here in Phoenix it only takes about 30 minutes from power up to having the camera shut down in our high temperatures (110+)

Cold packs aren't worth a damn, they last maybe 20 minutes. Gel packs aren't much better. Ice in the old style "headache" containers/pouches has actually worked the best- very little perspiring. They still do perspire so you have to be careful, typically I change the ice every hour or so and drain all water. I place the bag on top of the camera and it does the trick. Triple bagging ice in zip-lock bags has worked in a pinch, but that's asking for trouble. These headache/pouches have one small opening, have a screw top lid that locks tight (just large enough to make pouring ice into it easy enough) and has a skin that is durable/strong.

I've heard of some chemical that is used in motorcycle vests that can keep a rider cool for up to 4 hours. Going to try one of these out and do a DIY saddle bag custom fit for the RED. Have a couple inserts to slide into the slots and you should be good to go. Just re-dip them into cold water for 20 minutes to re-charge the chemical. That sounds do-able on set. Gotta be functional, fast and look good.

I'll post a picture or two when it's completed.
 
Hi Folks,

I feel your pain, we've just had over heating problems in London - hardly the warmest place on the planet. We had a camera shutdown a few times. Eeek!!

I'm going to knock up a Peltier/Fan based unit that will heat or cool the RED, I'll be happy to share any results I get with you all when I've done a few experiments. This unit will not be connected to the RED electrically because drawing power from the 12V aux socket is only going to make the problem worse - and anyway there just isn't enough power available from that socket, as it's current limited.

I've just ordered some parts so it will take me a few weeks to try this out.

However, if you just want to cool your RED and are somewhat practical you might consider purchasing 2 x 92mm 12V fans e.g.

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/111716.pdf

I'd go for the FBA09A 12H (that's 0.255 Amps BTW) and power it from any external 12V source that you like - even a car battery or one of those adaptors that plugs in the cigar/cigarette holder in your 'vehicle'.

Mount them on a couple of brackets that you can screw into the RED top mount, make sure the fans are blowing air downwards onto the top of the body and maybe that'll work.

Please let me know if it does.

If anyone is interested in Peltier/Fan Heat/Cool system, please PM me and I'll keep you posted on any early results of the experiments. It may not be viable?

If there's enough interest and it looks good, I have a local engineering company who can make a professional job of it. They made me a very nice lens support part recently.

All the best, Phil
 
No one still not have answer for heat. For last one week we are shooting in our Country (India) and with temp crossing 41 the camera show hot mode indication and shutdown after crossing 46.

Solutions are welcome?

People and DP are finding it scary to use for exterior prior to this reason from our part of the world?

Any thoughts Red Team?
 
gbalaji said:
No one still not have answer for heat. For last one week we are shooting in our Country (India) and with temp crossing 41 the camera show hot mode indication and shutdown after crossing 46.

Solutions are welcome?

People and DP are finding it scary to use for exterior prior to this reason from our part of the world?

Any thoughts Red Team?
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Shade and gel packs are what people have been using.

Also, you might try mounting a CPU heatsink on top of the camera, especially a liquid cooled one.
 
rainer said:
First Help is a nice big robust umbrella rigged on a c-stand.... :)
This helps also if the sun is not shining sometimes.... :)

regards

rainer
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I am in love with that umbrella, where do I get one like that?
 
gbalaji said:
No one still not have answer for heat. For last one week we are shooting in our Country (India) and with temp crossing 41 the camera show hot mode indication and shutdown after crossing 46.

Solutions are welcome?

People and DP are finding it scary to use for exterior prior to this reason from our part of the world?

Any thoughts Red Team?
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I do have most of the parts now to try the idea I have. I'll try and get to it in the next few days. I'll keep you posted of any developments. Does anyone know where I can get the D connector for the battery plate from? I'm in the UK.

All the best, Phil
 
Phil, I don't know a source in the UK, but the Anton Baurer part number is P-Tap Kit 8168-8107.
 
Larry McKee said:
Phil, I don't know a source in the UK, but the Anton Baurer part number is P-Tap Kit 8168-8107.
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Brill - Thanks Larry I'll check that out.

All the best, Phil
 
I have been thinking of an oil-cooled rig that can be hooked/clamped on between shots.
What do you guys think about a rig (say on a tripod leg), attached to the top that has a heatsink of sorts with two flexi pipes hanging off it.
It will need two pipes to be inserted and the flip of a switch to run it. I am hoping the heat-sink itself would help as a passive cooler.
 
Wonder if some cameras are pickier than others. I had mine out all day in 90+ degree heat and was sure I might run into a problem, but it never failed (knocking on wood desk now). I ran it with the mode that quiets down when recording and turns fans back on when not.

Maybe I haven't been in a hot enough situation yet.
 
RED One underwater housing heat issues

RED One underwater housing heat issues

Hi
I have been working on an underwater housing for the RED one camera in the UK and I am mindful of the overheating issues.
http://www.underwater-camera.com/site/RED_ONE_housing.pdf

My housing is primarily designed for use on feature films and commercials which are most often shot in tanks with water temperatures of up to 30C.
I have experimented with an off the shelf hard drive cooling fan unit (1.40GBP) which is powered via a D plug from the Element Technica hot swap battery holder which also holds the RED drive using an ISO plate.
It is also possible to mount another fan on top of the camera in the housing as it has been designed with space around the camera to allow for air movement.
It also occurs to me that all laptop computers are designed to be able to go into a low power mode to conserve power. This also means lower heat production. In an underwater housing (or indeed any shooting situation), much of the time is spent lining up rather than recording. Is it not possible to build a low power mode option into the software build of the camera. Are you listening RED?

Hugh Fairs
http://underwater-camera.com
 
I have not had a problem as yet, shooting in conditions of around the 50 degree mark with a lot of humidity.But I have been shooting commercials that are MOS so we can have a very large fan blowing at the camera (also camera crew and I, helps alot)
Only once had a temperature issue when I had one of the camera's on a crane,again resolved with a big fan in between takes. However would be great to have a cooling solution.
 
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