Mark L. Pederson
REDuser Sponsor
So, I have been without internet since last Friday morning until now, as I took my 22 month-old son to Elkton, Minnesota to visit his 92 year old great Grandmother. There isn't much technology in Elton, Minnesota except the latest from John Deere. So, I am now just catching up on me REDUSER.NET - and all the "drama" after Jim's post re
elay -
I am reading the recent REDUSER threads and well ... if my Grandfather were alive (he was a successful farmer, fisherman and hunter - a man a few, but wise words) he would say "the natives are getting restless". Reservation holders want their cameras.
Seems like Redusers are very quick to attack each other these days ... things seem to be getting a bit more emotional.
I don't know if anybody really cares about what I think, but I (or rather my company Offhollywood Digital) is technically the EARLIEST reservation holder (after Jim's #1-5), and also technically the first reservation holder to reserve MORE THAN ONE camera, so I feel like I should at least make a few comments.
Aren't we all here (with the exception of the lurkers) because we are excited and passionate about owning an ultra-high quality digital cinema camera? Isn't that what this is about? It really seems to me like many Redusers are starting to loose perspective.
There's an engineering delay. They are going to re-spin a board. They are going to try to get the BEST possible image they can out of the sensor. Reservation holders and huge players in Hollywood turn the screws - WHEN can we get the cameras? (and some "I want MY camera NOW! DADDY, I WANT THE GOOSE THAT LAYS THE GOLDEN EGG!") Jim says he should have answer on the 15th ...
On the 15th Jim says, he can't give you a new timeline yet - that he needs a few more facts from several suppliers to finish the timeline and should have everything he needs to present next Friday -
and then he goes on to say he is placing a handful of Beta prototypes (named but not serial numbered) before production begins on major motion pictures.
This is FANTASTIC!
It is only BAD news if you actually thought that on the 15th, you would get to know when you were getting your camera. And it sounds like you will only have to wait a week to find out. How would you have reacted if Jim said, "we are still working on it, it could take us months to solve this"??
Why do I think this is FANTASTIC?
Well ... most importantly, Jim didn't say he needed more time to engineer the board again. That is huge. The very fact that he is putting beta units on major motion pictures strongly suggests that what they were working on during this delay is done. Now they are on to field testing and production logistics. This is AWESOME.
As far as posts regarding who gets "beta units", and why are "majors" getting them instead of us little people, etc. - well, if you think about what RED's objective is for a moment, and not yourself ("DADDY, I want MY camera NOW! That stupid Spielberg is JUMPING THE LINE!!) then you would relax a bit.
Red needs to FIELD TEST units. In the hands of MULTIPLE seasoned, recognized professionals with years and years of experience AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. This accomplishes several things at the same time. This will prove, very quickly, if the camera is stable enough for feature production. Major "bugs", if any, will come to the surface quickly. RED will get VALUABLE FEEDBACK (that is not coming from Reduser's who think Jim Jannard is the greatest man that ever lived), but hardcore pros. And let's all be real here, the RED ONE being used successfully on more than one major motion picture VALIDATES the camera to an industry very "set in it's ways". Now you are sitting with a producer and you can say - they just used it on XXXXX from Disney (or Warner, or Fox, etc. etc.) and they loved it! That's good for everybody.
As a far as "my low reservation number is going to mean nothing" posts - well ... what did you think when you put your $1000 down? What did you expect? If you thought you would own a RED ONE before everybody else who ordered after you, well ... I think you're still getting what you wanted. I don't think there was anything about getting to beta test cameras in your reservation agreement.
Jim said "the camera gets better every day" - we should all be excited as hell, not selfish and greedy.
Offhollywood is cheering the whole RED team on, from the gang on the front line, and all the un-seen engineers in secret labs.
The last 5% might be the toughest, but the finish line is gonna be pretty damn sweet! See you there!!!
elay -I am reading the recent REDUSER threads and well ... if my Grandfather were alive (he was a successful farmer, fisherman and hunter - a man a few, but wise words) he would say "the natives are getting restless". Reservation holders want their cameras.
Seems like Redusers are very quick to attack each other these days ... things seem to be getting a bit more emotional.
I don't know if anybody really cares about what I think, but I (or rather my company Offhollywood Digital) is technically the EARLIEST reservation holder (after Jim's #1-5), and also technically the first reservation holder to reserve MORE THAN ONE camera, so I feel like I should at least make a few comments.
Aren't we all here (with the exception of the lurkers) because we are excited and passionate about owning an ultra-high quality digital cinema camera? Isn't that what this is about? It really seems to me like many Redusers are starting to loose perspective.
There's an engineering delay. They are going to re-spin a board. They are going to try to get the BEST possible image they can out of the sensor. Reservation holders and huge players in Hollywood turn the screws - WHEN can we get the cameras? (and some "I want MY camera NOW! DADDY, I WANT THE GOOSE THAT LAYS THE GOLDEN EGG!") Jim says he should have answer on the 15th ...
On the 15th Jim says, he can't give you a new timeline yet - that he needs a few more facts from several suppliers to finish the timeline and should have everything he needs to present next Friday -
and then he goes on to say he is placing a handful of Beta prototypes (named but not serial numbered) before production begins on major motion pictures.
This is FANTASTIC!
It is only BAD news if you actually thought that on the 15th, you would get to know when you were getting your camera. And it sounds like you will only have to wait a week to find out. How would you have reacted if Jim said, "we are still working on it, it could take us months to solve this"??
Why do I think this is FANTASTIC?
Well ... most importantly, Jim didn't say he needed more time to engineer the board again. That is huge. The very fact that he is putting beta units on major motion pictures strongly suggests that what they were working on during this delay is done. Now they are on to field testing and production logistics. This is AWESOME.
As far as posts regarding who gets "beta units", and why are "majors" getting them instead of us little people, etc. - well, if you think about what RED's objective is for a moment, and not yourself ("DADDY, I want MY camera NOW! That stupid Spielberg is JUMPING THE LINE!!) then you would relax a bit.
Red needs to FIELD TEST units. In the hands of MULTIPLE seasoned, recognized professionals with years and years of experience AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. This accomplishes several things at the same time. This will prove, very quickly, if the camera is stable enough for feature production. Major "bugs", if any, will come to the surface quickly. RED will get VALUABLE FEEDBACK (that is not coming from Reduser's who think Jim Jannard is the greatest man that ever lived), but hardcore pros. And let's all be real here, the RED ONE being used successfully on more than one major motion picture VALIDATES the camera to an industry very "set in it's ways". Now you are sitting with a producer and you can say - they just used it on XXXXX from Disney (or Warner, or Fox, etc. etc.) and they loved it! That's good for everybody.
As a far as "my low reservation number is going to mean nothing" posts - well ... what did you think when you put your $1000 down? What did you expect? If you thought you would own a RED ONE before everybody else who ordered after you, well ... I think you're still getting what you wanted. I don't think there was anything about getting to beta test cameras in your reservation agreement.
Jim said "the camera gets better every day" - we should all be excited as hell, not selfish and greedy.
Offhollywood is cheering the whole RED team on, from the gang on the front line, and all the un-seen engineers in secret labs.
The last 5% might be the toughest, but the finish line is gonna be pretty damn sweet! See you there!!!
