The best $5,750 you can spend [updated]

[Jannard]

The problem with showing tests like these is that everyone tends to guess what they mean. I'd put more stock in what Brook said.

Jim

 

[Sarah C.]

I didn't realize that a test like this was a little premature at this stage.

I took it as a "first look". I'd also expect that over time the firmware on the M-X will be refined. Red has that sort of history already ...as do many makers of elite computer-controlled products.

~s

 

[Jannard]

The M-X sensor needs the same calibration refinement as the M sensor did. There are a TON of variables so we are not likely to get it all the 1st try... but better every day. Right now you can see the potential for an extremely quiet sensor with noise that looks perfect when you do find it.

Jim

 

[Chris Parker]

i couldn't agree more with the ability to see the potential of this quiet sensor. we have shot some tests and are amazed at both how little noise there is at high ISO, and also at the personality of the noise. MUCH less unattractive than original sensor.

Can't wait for the tuneup of the MX. is this done via firmware upgrades Jim?

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

Our MX cameras just started going out on commercial jobs.

Tomorrow is a fashion editorial with James Lima - concept artist for AVATAR - for LOVE magazine.

I'd put a Red One with an MX up against ANY digital cinema camera any day.

 

[Jannard]

i couldn't agree more with the ability to see the potential of this quiet sensor. we have shot some tests and are amazed at both how little noise there is at high ISO, and also at the personality of the noise. MUCH less unattractive than original sensor.

Can't wait for the tuneup of the MX. is this done via firmware upgrades Jim?

Yes... when ready, you'll upgrade camera firmware and then do a Black Shading Calibration.

Jim

 

[Chris Parker]

actually, we have posted a little video showing a side-by-side comparison of some footage using the old RED sensor and the new MX sensor. we have put it up for free on the home page of:

www.DigitalCinemaLessons.com

This free video is compressed pretty harshly down to flash, so don't judge the new sensor on THAT compression. it does show the dramatic difference between the old and new however, especially if you go to full-screen view mode.

 

[Chris Parker]

Yes... when ready, you'll upgrade camera firmware and then do a Black Shading Calibration.

Jim

haha. Build 30 is what I'm waiting for. I hear it's the 'new Build 1'.

 

[Blair S. Paulsen]

haha. Build 30 is what I'm waiting for. I hear it's the 'new Build 1'.

Ahh, Build 1, how I loved thee. 24 Frames at 2:1 and amazingly stable, it was adding features along the way that let a few bugs creep in.

I better stop now before I go all Luddite :banned:

Cheers - #19

 

[Sunshine Whitton]

This is very exciting... I'm ready for the upgrade! My customers are going to freak! Yeah baby...

 

[Rich Schaefer]

Great video Chris, thanks for sharing.

 

[Steven Caesare]

Let's wait for the new calibration and re-test before drawing any conclusions other than "the new M-X sensor is scary noiseless". How's that sound?

Jim

It is damn tempting to add the following to my sig:

"The new M-X sensor is scary noiseless." - J. Jannard


-sc

 

[Miltos Pilalitos]

actually, we have posted a little video showing a side-by-side comparison of some footage using the old RED sensor and the new MX sensor. we have put it up for free on the home page of:

www.DigitalCinemaLessons.com

Great video Chris, thanks for sharing.

Am i the only one that can't play this video? The site loads fine but the videos never start. I used 3 different browsers both in OSX and Windows and the result is the same.

Is there some other link for this video?

 

[Ryan E. Walters]

Am i the only one that can't play this video? The site loads fine but the videos never start. I used 3 different browsers both in OSX and Windows and the result is the same.

Is there some other link for this video?

It is working fine for me. Maybe it is limited to only US viewers?
(I'm on OS 10.5.8 and viewing with Safari)

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

It's working here in Vienna, Austria.

Also it would be nice to download and see at 1080p.

 

[Miltos Pilalitos]

OK, I managed to finally see it with Internet Explorer (yikes!). It just took ages to download!

I agree with Sanjin, It's very difficult to see any differences at that resolution.

 

[Chris Parker]

we are transcoding to 720P and will put it up shortly. will let you know when it is up there.

 

[Chris Parker]

so, we have posted the video on the site as 720P (and we also added some more footage to the end of the video), which allows you to download it and view it full screen in pretty good quality. for those who want to do so, the link is here:

http://www.digitalcinemalessons.com/product_info.php?products_id=317

Our website is setup such that you'll need an account and you'll have to 'buy' the video to download the higher quality version. By 'buy' I mean 25 cents. Here's the description......

In this video footage is imported into Redcine-X Build 96 from both the original RED Mysterium chip and also the new MysteriumX. A look is created and applied to the Mysterium-X footage and then copied over to the Mysterium footage. After all of the clips have been given a look, each is exported to a Pro Res 4444 QT file and placed side by side in FCP for a comparison. Shots compared are each shot at: T-22, T-16, T-11, T-5.6, T-4 Also, a cityscape image shot at 800 ISO is shown at different ISO's to get a look at how far you can push your blacks. This video is a .H254 QT - 720P

 

[Brook Willard]

Threw a still and video up. I know it'll be tough to tell anything from the way it's presented, but the original footage is pretty awesome. Being able to shoot at a T2.6 and actually get something out of an exposure like this is really something.

 

[Chris Parker]

will make those new Cooke Panchros even more useful.....