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Steve Jobs...

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Carlos Florez said:
I agree, I really admire Steve Jobs, profoundly. One of my favorites, I still hear the speech he did for Stanford graduating students, I never get tired of listening to it, So inspiring, he's a roll model.
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That speech was exceptionally good; I too have listened to it more than once. We are all better off because Steve Jobs lived, and was able to pursue his vision.
 
He's not dead just changing Jobs (literally) as Bill also did. The real contribution of Steve was to give a correct consumer electronics focus to using equipment, and presentation, and before that professionalism and marketing. Like Bill not too much is accredited directly to him, in the early days the other Steve did most of the innovation until an unfortunate car accident for one example. Xerox came up with a windowing system beforehand, the mouse was invented in the 60's. Many Apple patents, products and innovations read like my earlier conceptual work, and I am not the only one. I am watching Apple with interest, seeing it slowly waking up to the realisation of what it has to do in the future to grow, which I previously woke up about, and the next step past the iPhone and Android. Visionary is easy, money time effort health and guts are what stop you if you are one of the few, and Steve had plenty of those, so he should have been able to bring these about before the rest of us thought of them. People have been acting like he invented the personal computer and just keep adding things. People accredit great things to great people, even though those great things may have rubbed off on them from those around them, such as the "I have a dream" phrase Martin Luther King Jr heard a woman repeating over and over again to herself at some drop in center before his speech. So, I still say Steve is a great man, but let's keep it in perspective. Anyway, less competition, tired of seeing Apple, and others, take out patents that cover my old ideas ;) .
 
Nothing I can type here will ever come close to describing the tremendous respect and admiration I have for Steve. I won't even try - any attempt to do so would merely dilute the conviction of that statement. Steve Jobs has been and continues to be an immense and critical inspiration in my life.

Thanks, Steve. Thanks for everything.
 
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Impact indeed! I'll never forget when he left Apple in the 80's then later returns and unleashes! I'm sure he's made a nice map for the next few years but worried about what will happen afterwards. None the less I hope him the best and thank you for giving us what no one else has...
 
Ideas are a dime a dozen. It is the drive, vision, and ability to inspire and manage people to bring useful ideas to fruition that is rare. To create products that change whole industries, and even the culture of a society itself takes many intelligent skilled people, but without visionary leadership it never happens. Hats off to Jobs, he is one of the giants.
 
Thank you Steve for everything you did in Apple (and still what you will do in the future! as he still will be part of big projects.) and how you changed the tech world! Big respect to you!
 
Jobs has done great things with Apple. Gone from near bankruptcy to most valuable company! I strongly dislike Apple's current course regarding patent lawsuits though...
 
"You can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future," he told Stanford University graduates during a commencement speech in 2005. "You have to trust in something -- your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life."

"Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do," he told the Stanford grads.

"If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll on."
 
Isn't this amazing? It is BECAUSE Steve Jobs is such a visionary that this news is a small shock. Of course he is Apple, but Apple is NOT Steve Jobs. It has grown way beyond him, and that is another testament to his leadership. This is not the same as when he left the first time, not at all. Apple is now the most valuable company in America by some measures, and that is due to his leadership. Tim Cook is an excellent choice and Apple will be as strong as it ever was before this news. Man knows not his time, and Steve Jobs has set his company up for success. That is his legacy.
 
Jannard said:
The news that Steve has stepped down as Apple CEO sends ripples across the world. It implies that life is short. Things change. Make the most of what you have because it can go away as fast as it came.

I know Steve. I have met with him. I admire him. Steve has changed the world and set an example for all visionaries to follow. There are very few like Steve... Walt Disney is the only other one that comes to mind in my lifetime.

Businesses need visionaries. They don't need bean counters or "businessmen". Visionaries see beyond "what is". They envision what "can be" or "will be". Steve has done an amazing job of this. Hat's off.

I give my full respect and appreciation to Steve Jobs at this critical time in his life. I can only hope that his vision will carry Apple for many years to come. He has certainly inspired me.

Jim
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To my recollection I've never used an Apple product other than Quicktime on occasion, so I've not got the same connection with Steve Jobs as so many here on Reduser have. Still, I know who he is and what he has done. And like anyone with health problems, I wish him the best in his quest to get better.

I guess he's a visionary but since I don't use any of his products, his vision hasn't affected me as it has probably billions of others. I look at his business model and I just see a businessman who creates products people will buy and sells it to them for a tidy profit. I don't recall him ever under-pricing his product to make it affordable for more people. On the contrary he has generally set the price bar at it's high threshold and in doing so has made Apple one of the most profitable companies in the world.

So I agree he is an astute businessman. However, I think terms like Visionary should be reserved for people who are not only able to see the future, but choose to share that vision with his or her customer base. Someone who desires his customer-friends feel the passion of the experience from within the vision.

Someone like you, Jim Jannard.
 
Elsie N said:
I guess he's a visionary but since I don't use any of his products, his vision hasn't affected me as it has probably billions of others. I look at his business model and I just see a businessman who creates products people will buy and sells it to them for a tidy profit.
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You missed something!
That's not "just" business... :)
Between Pixar and Apple... The spirit I guess...

All the best to Mr Jobs.
Antoine.
 
@Elsie - If you take a look at what he and his company has created and how it has influenced the world, then you wouldn't just appreciate his business skills...the man is a genius - pure and simple!

I'll never forget this: When I bought my first Apple computer many, many years ago, the guy in the store said to me "once you go Mac, you never go back". He was right ;)
 
Antoine MARTEAU said:
You missed something!
That's not "just" business... :)
Between Pixar and Apple... The spirit I guess...

All the best to Mr Jobs.
Antoine.
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Antoine, you make a good point... that there is a cohesion among Apple users for the products. I was just comparing Steve Jobs's "sold vision" to Jim Jannard's "shared vision".
 
Nuka Wølk said:
@Elsie - If you take a look at what he and his company has created and how it has influenced the world, then you wouldn't just appreciate his business skills...the man is a genius - pure and simple!
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yes, a money-making business genius. I agree.

I'll never forget this: When I bought my first Apple computer many, many years ago, the guy in the store said to me "once you go Mac, you never go back". He was right ;)
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But I've never bought an Apple computer or other Apple products, as I stated before. Those are geegaws as far as I am concerned. I have friends who are chained to them and I've decided my life is just fine without those things.

But if I had never owned an R-1 or could not look forward to owning the Epic, I can see my life would be about half as good as it is now.
 
The man has taken Apple from rock-bottom to being the largest publicly traded company in the world (well, almost) in less than 15 years. I don't think such a feat would be repeated in our livetimes.
 
Elsie N said:
To my recollection I've never used an Apple product other than Quicktime on occasion, so I've not got the same connection with Steve Jobs as so many here on Reduser have. Still, I know who he is and what he has done. And like anyone with health problems, I wish him the best in his quest to get better.

I guess he's a visionary but since I don't use any of his products, his vision hasn't affected me as it has probably billions of others. I look at his business model and I just see a businessman who creates products people will buy and sells it to them for a tidy profit. I don't recall him ever under-pricing his product to make it affordable for more people. On the contrary he has generally set the price bar at it's high threshold and in doing so has made Apple one of the most profitable companies in the world.

So I agree he is an astute businessman. However, I think terms like Visionary should be reserved for people who are not only able to see the future, but choose to share that vision with his or her customer base. Someone who desires his customer-friends feel the passion of the experience from within the vision.

Someone like you, Jim Jannard.
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Elsie, your post is sort of a backhanded compliment, i.e. "Gee for a fat lady, you sure don't sweat very much".
 
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