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STAGE 2: KEEP your RED ONE and get EPIC-X Stage 2 package

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I rarely get threatened with litigation... but when I do I take it seriously.

Jim
 
The problem is that the one threatening litigation is full of shit. Plus, there is no reason for the bluster since we have agreed to fix the issue. Stupidity. Super stupidity.

Jim
 
Jannard said:
I rarely get threatened with litigation... but when I do I take it seriously.

Jim
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130-0 is rarely? :) By the way, what's the split in that very impressive record between defending and prosecuting?
 
Jannard said:
The problem is that the one threatening litigation is full of shit. Plus, there is no reason for the bluster since we have agreed to fix the issue. Stupidity. Super stupidity.

Jim
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+1

Thanks to Jim and Jarred RED is family. No reason to go to court. RED offers always a fair solution.
 
Jannard said:
The problem is that the one threatening litigation is full of shit. Plus, there is no reason for the bluster since we have agreed to fix the issue. Stupidity. Super stupidity.

Jim
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Agreed
I tried to warn him...

LOL

Super-gentle of you guys to resolve this!
I guess you can sense the relief and appreachiachion all over the RED globe.

And this guy understandedly pisses you off and distracts karma.

OTOH

I would SOOOOOOOOO like to be there, when he knocks on your door to deliver that little white envelope!

Sorry, but:


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
Probably 95:05 initiating litigation.

Jim

Mark Warren said:
130-0 is rarely? :) By the way, what's the split in that very impressive record between defending and prosecuting?
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Stage 2 is what is... it was spelled out.... it was a generous offer from RED too those of us who wanted to keep the RED ONE.... which I was fortunate enough to take up and I will keep mine, Perspective after some hard times of late like loosing my studio to a violent earthquake having to rebuild then the death of my father etc... makes for tough times... lean times but the camera is essentially a beautiful way of capturing images... for my work... and for my documenting life... I found out before Dad died he loved to make images as well over his life ...he encouraged me to save for the RED camera... I can not understand people sometimes... as to the threats... not the most smart thing to do... just go shoot something a moment in time.... enjoy life.... and as for Jim and the rest at RED... Thank you!
 
glad this turned out alright...apart from one individual whose probably in the basement with a bottle of whiskey freaking out...
 
All due respect Jack, with heartfelt genuine concern for your sudden realization, Reduser.net is not RED nor does RED have to track what goes on here.

Personally, (feel free to ignore this) I think RED does more than enough with their pricing and upgrade options to have to defend why they would enforce their clear intent, especially regarding a deal no other camera company comes even close to deserving having their very best all-time offers even remotely compared to. 0.02
 
Jannard said:
The problem is that the one threatening litigation is full of shit. Plus, there is no reason for the bluster since we have agreed to fix the issue. Stupidity. Super stupidity.

Jim
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Jim, its Labor Day weekend and you crazy fuckers are working? LOVE IT !!!... but that guy is not worth your energy. 12 lawyers... LOL... isn't that the number of jurors in a trial? Yeah, suffice it to say that qualifies as bullshit
as I can barely get my 1 lawyer to call me back!

Thank you again for the compassion, seriously. I truly believe nobody meant to profit or skirt the rules of Stage 2. Times are tough and many I know HATED selling their R1- but the simple fact is, they HAD to.

Thank you again for the classy move - that action speaks volumes about RED and I can't thank you enough for this generous response.
 
Disclaimer first:
I have my Red One MX. I have an EPIC M and I have an Epic X on the way... I may sell one of these in the future.

Ok, now I just wanted to post that I am really surprised by some of the reactions here.

The idea of the discount Stage 2 to valuable clients is both a generous and positive business decision. To make it that you need to still own your Red one seems completely reasonable to me. No one said if you sold your Red One you could not buy an Epic. The opposite - M Epics are fully on sale to anyone. Full queue jump if you want to call it that... (I dont but someone new to RED could just buy an M and move forward). So the idea that a special offer with conditions is any different here than anywhere else is so surprising to me.
Companies run promotions all the time, they nearly always have conditions - One per customer, limit of two, limited time only etc... this is so common it isn't funny...

So the issue seems to be that people forgot that there was such conditions - fair enough - But Red responded with "OK well lets stop it now please".. MORE than fair enough... shouldn't that be it?

Surely this is getting seriously unreasonable.

Red made a generous offer. There was a HUGE easy way around it if you did not want to play: Buy a Epic M - And if you screwed up on your Red One - as I know some people just accidentally did - then RED has been more than reasonable.

Wow. Anyone think how RED may look at any future suggestion of a discount to loyal customer? Seriously, I think a simple thank you, and moving on is the only response.

Thanks Red.

Mike
 
Jannard said:
Probably 95:05 initiating litigation.

Jim
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I don't fancy his chances. Your agitation in response here reveals someone who values their integrity, and also explains your record.
 
I'm waiting for a response from Jack Cooper....

Jim
 
No need to make fun guys. It isn't polite, and it makes us look bad.

Imran, I seriously doubt there is reason for Jack to worry... as long as he stops teasing the (clearly benevolent) dragon.
 
AndrewThomas said:
Somebody needs to bust out some of those "eating popcorn" gifs, cause this got really entertaining all of the sudden!
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:emote_popcorn:


Better? I've just spent the last half hour reading through this one.
 
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