SCHNEIDER RHODIUM FSND .9

[Sharon Mathew]

Dear Folks,

i am in search of certain filters which are used in the industry.

the look am after is - dark moody, medium contrast, VERY low exposed, BUT clean Image

images i like are military green or dark Teal

******* i want advice from you - mainly based on the exposure. how to cut down the exposure.

when i brings down exposure in post, it lowers the clarity and brings hazy look.

is ND the answer. if yes, what kind of ND can do the task. or are there specific filters for brining down exposure like MONOCHROMATIC filters.

note: blue color or softening diffusers is not what i am after.

please let me know if you have suggestions &

thank you

 

[M Harvey]

Perhaps you could share sample images that are similar to what you want to achieve.

I personally don’t usually find that lowering exposure in post brings a hazy look. But it can definitely look unnatural, especially if your lighting doesn’t match.

 

[Sharon Mathew]

these are the images. one is teal another is military green i tired to match HSL but the image washes out . do you know if there is any specific filter to be used in order to bring to this level of exposure. like FSND, IRND, or even normal ND. i dont suppose its to do with diffusion filters. i only want to know the filter which matches these shots

 

[Phil Holland]

these are the images.

You won't be using filters to achieve this look. One is a combination of lighting + color grade. The other is also lighting, but far simpler and a color grade.

Both are lower key exposures. ND can lower your exposure, but it won't contribute to the look you're after here.

 

[Sharon Mathew]

i tried all methods in post using resolve. but not even closer. am still working on it.
1. cooled temp
2. tinted green
3. brought exposure line/curve way below. almost more than half.

the results when cooled temp was great, the image stays clean.

but i can't bring exposure down .

if lighting is what you say then 'll look in to it.

the dirty green image has HSL of around 90 10 25 there about. but when i matched it with my footage it was not close. so my thought was nds.

 

[Phil Holland]

Sharon Mathew - There's several people who dabble in color on this forum. If you share an R3D snapshot if anybody has the time they can likely give it a go.

 

[Sharon Mathew]

the footage that i was editing was not r3d. the ones that have in r3d were outdoor ones which i had downloaded and wasn't suitable for grading to teal or dark green. thanks for suggesting this. sooner i will have them. meanwhile i'll try experimenting with ND and lighting as you said. but my thought about lighting is in a lit house with windows open, how are we going to achieve low key set. which is why i looked for filters. but as of now i have collected some info about it. monochrome or rhodium fsnd should bring the exposure down then the rest i should be able to take care in resolve. i think.

if you have any suggestions about filters which can give specific looks please do write. just as day for night blue and cool look. these ones i already know. but dont know if there is any for teal or green

 

[M Harvey]

but my thought about lighting is in a lit house with windows open, how are we going to achieve low key set.

With lighting, it's usually the case that you're trying to achieve a particular lighting ratio (the difference between light and dark areas) and shape the light (where the dark parts are and where the light parts are) that you have. ND filters bring down all light equally, so they do not change lighting ratio, and they don't shape the light.

If you want to imitate these images, controlling your ratios and shaping the light is the place to start. (And of course having great production design!) You can do a lot in the grade, especially in giving a teal cast to parts of the image, but you need to start with the light and dark in roughly the right places.

So if it were me, I'd start with a conversation with a gaffer.

 

[Sharon Mathew]

Thanks you for the information. it sounds good to me. i'll definitely look into this