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Scarlet-X: Recommended Canon EF lenses

Can someone tell me the difference between the Ti CANON EF MOUNT and the Al CANON EF MOUNT that is being offered on the Scarlet X?
 
Aluminum vs Titainium. Titanim stronger, less prone to stress and damage lenes place on the mount.
 
paulherrin said:
don't forget to check out the duclos cine-mods: http://www.ducloslenses.com/Duclos_Lenses/zf.html

if you're on the cheap i would recommend either a couple decent primes, even if they're not L-series - maybe 24 and 50mm. Or, a decent zoom like the 24-105 or 24-70 & 70-200. i would definitely get the image stabilization, and decide on which ones based on what you shoot. you can always punch in if you're mostly finishing below 2k right now, then push towards the telephoto range later. and you can rent glass on a per-project basis while you build up.

if you're really really on the cheap, i do like some of the midrange glass like the 28-135, the 28 1.8, 50 1.4, 85 1.8, 100 2.0... i also have enjoyed the 10-22, though the tokina 11-16 might be better. both should be totally fine at 4k.
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Hey Paul or anyone else for that matter. I heard that Image Stabilized lens shouldn't be used in conjuction with tripod or steadicam use. While it makes sense with a tripod, is there any validity to this with respect to tripod use?
 
Obviously these lenses are far from cheap, but as far as I can see they represent the best quality lenses you can get for cinema on an EF mount camera (perhaps the new Canon lenses will suprass them though). Check out the interchangeable mount lenses here. You can use them on your Canon mount and then if you want to switch to a PL mount on your Scarlet-X then you can swap to your

http://www.zeiss.com/cine

The zoom is about $30,000 and the primes are $4,000+ a piece, but they have a consistent size, relatively low T-stops across the range and a proper cine focus wheel.
 
What about the Zeiss slr series glass? They seem like the best bet to me, and not terribly expensive compared to the cost of the Scarlet. Seems silly to put a 350$ Tamron on it.
 
Ryan Chapman said:
What about the Zeiss slr series glass? They seem like the best bet to me, and not terribly expensive compared to the cost of the Scarlet. Seems silly to put a 350$ Tamron on it.
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These ones that paulherrin posted (http://www.ducloslenses.com/Duclos_Lenses/zf.html) look great. They are Zeiss SLR glass, modified to better shoot film. As a much cheaper alternative to the CP.2 primes listed above they are good value. :)
 
I would say the Tokina 11-16, the Canon 24 1.4L (my favorite on the 5D), the 50 1.4 or 50 1.2 (the 1.4 is great bang for the buck), the 24- 105 4 IS (You'll really love the IS for Doc shooting) , and of course the 70-200 2.8 IS II, which is absolutely stunning.

Is IS already working on the Epics? I remember there were some mount firmware issues with that?
 
I'll have to pick up that Tokina lens. It seems like a pretty tremendous value and having something that wide honestly almost seems like an essential tool if you want to shoot at 3k, let alone 2k with any real regularity. Basically, if you want to shoot real time (when played back at 24fps) footage and use HDRx then you need a really, really wide lens like this to be able to even get even a shot that's even somewhat wide-angle.
 
tokina 11-16mm vignette benchmark

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http://reduser.net/forum/showthread...IC-Canon-Mount&p=814115&viewfull=1#post814115
 
Nick Wernham said:
I'll have to pick up that Tokina lens. It seems like a pretty tremendous value and having something that wide honestly almost seems like an essential tool if you want to shoot at 3k, let alone 2k with any real regularity. Basically, if you want to shoot real time (when played back at 24fps) footage and use HDRx then you need a really, really wide lens like this to be able to even get even a shot that's even somewhat wide-angle.
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I'm hoping someone actually comes up with a 4/3rds to EOS mount or even a Nikon 1 to EOS mount for Scarlt users. These lenses are smaller than APS-C lenses and could work wonderfully for the 3K/2k and even 1k modes of the Scarlet... Any manufacturer interested? MTF??? I would get this in a heartbeat! Imagine the Panasonic Leica 7-15 at 3K 50fps...
 
Apologies in case I missed someone posting these options:

Samyang/Bower:

35MM F1.4, Full manual Iris/Focus Beautiful Bokeh. Duclos did a great tech test and writeup about it. About $400

85MM F1.4, Again same as its wider brother and produces some beautiful images. And a shear bargain at just over $200 new.

Canon's Nifty Fifty. 50MM F1.8. Also called Plastic Fantastic. I actually had one for a week until a Version 1, metal magically appeared on CL in pristine condition and I sod the V2 for a $5 loss!!

The Samyang are (IIRC) FF glass, so a bit future proof.
 
Ryan Sauve said:
Hey Paul or anyone else for that matter. I heard that Image Stabilized lens shouldn't be used in conjuction with tripod or steadicam use. While it makes sense with a tripod, is there any validity to this with respect to tripod use?
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well, all i know (/think) is that what OIS does is use little gyros to slightly reposition optical pieces in the lens to keep things solid. i've shot with it both on and off using a tripod and had good results either way. most of the time, it's easy to get little tiny vibrations that get easily amplified at longer focal lengths, in which case IS helps a lot even if you have a solid tripod. i consider myself to be a pretty smooth shooter when i go handheld, but using the image stabilization means i can get some really nice stuff handheld. the only time i've questioned it was when i was shooting handheld out of an airplane, shooting into the sunset. the flare was jumping around somewhat oddly, though that was probably mostly due to the high frequency bumpiness from the engine rather than anything going on inside the lens. so maybe just be careful with shots that needs stabilization that include unavoidable flaring. other than that, i've shot a lot of things using the IS without any problems... walking/running, land, sea, and air. it obviously doesn't do all the work and often you need post stabilization, but it helps a LOT. do keep in mind as electronics are involved, it will probably use more power, but how much i'm not really sure.

i'd be interested to be proven wrong, but i've never heard of that before. anybody know of any downsides associated with optical image stabilization?
 
Matthieu Bourcheix said:
There is no autofocus on the Tokina 11-16...
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Really?? Then my Tokina 11-16mm must have little pixies inside it that do the focusing for me when I'm in AF mode...

Lots of good recommendations here, but ultimately your choice of lenses really depends on how you work, what you shoot and what your budget is.
 
Agree with the zooms to start. But the is something magical about the 85 1.2. My favorite. Also the 135 is really tasty.
 
Peter Majtan over at Scarletuser posted this three years ago:

Peter Majtan said:
I always buy lenses new. You take good care and they will serve You for long time...

You need to check whether the Letus supports Canon's new range of digital lenses (EFs):



1. Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Autofocus
(http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/519475-USA/Canon_2042B002_EF_S_18_55mm_f_3_5_5_6_IS.html)
$ 170,- USD (new)

2. Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS Autofocus
(http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/543923-USA/Canon_2044B002_EF_S_55_250mm_f_4_5_6_IS.html)
$ 280,- USD (new)

3. Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 USM Macro Autofocus
(http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/371176-GREY/Canon_0284B002_EF_S_60mm_f_2_8_USM.html)
$ 385,- USD (new)

4. Canon Wide Angle EF 28mm f/2.8 Autofocus
(http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/12096-GREY/Canon_2505A002_Wide_Angle_EF_28mm.html)
$ 170,- USD (new)

Total $ 1005,- USD

(If Letus doesn't support the EFs lenses - let me know and I will give You another suggestion...)

Take care

Peter
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Matthieu Bourcheix said:
There is no autofocus on the Tokina 11-16...
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As said it does have AF there is a ring that slides back and forth on the barrel, superb lens one of my favorites in the bag.

The 3.9 crop @2K will be interesting for tele lenses...600mm x 3.9 = 2340mm... could be handy for wildlife/sports
 
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