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Scarlet Deal of a Lifetime

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The BMD camera looks fantastic in a lot of ways, but yeah- it's NOT like shooting on any RED cam at all, and once you've worked with R3Ds, anything else feels not so fun. Part of it's the workflow being all figured out, part of it's getting 4K+, but a lot of it's the R3D tech- didn't Jarred or Jim once say that RED's secret weapon is the way R3Ds are encoded (REDcode)? I think with the BMD you'll mostly shoot in ProRes log (which is very, very good!) because straight up Raw is a pain for most projects (your film or high-end project may be exceptions).

BTW, I don't think the battery issue will matter all that much on the BMD, because you can use Vmounts with it, too. For me, the crop issue does matter. And the lack of REDcode. And I'm used to shooting in 4K... and frankly, I don't like learning multiple cam tech to do my job. A couple standard tools saves me time and ensures quality.
 
Just got a fedex tracking email....
Im not gonna cry, im not gonna cry...
 
paul schefz said:
the BMCC is a 2.5K uncompressed raw camera
the scarlet is a 4K 7:1 compressed camera
depending on what is in the frame it can be a big difference or not so big at all.....
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I agree. I think the BM is a great cam, for some projects, as well as other cams too. RED has
never been a cam that I would use for everything, but , rather, a cam that has a great workflow,
great modular system, fantastic support, upgradeable sensors, etc. etc. A great example, for me,
was the Red Riding Trilogy (no pun). For my taste, the 16mm shot film (Part 1) looked much better
than the part 2 (which was shot on 35mm film). And the pricing, on the BM is great, or should i say,
more affordable, to many. However, in a twist of fate, through this deal, the Scarlet became a viable
option, and makes great sense to me at this point (It made great sense at 17k too, but didnt have the
budget for that yet). I think every camera has its limitations, but thankfully, there is a world full of
innovators, making new products to deal with those limitations. Will probably buy the Bm, when it is more
available, in the States, but am also extremely thrilled to have access to my new RED 24/7 (when it arrives ha)
and to be part of this great community.
 
Glen Powell said:
Huh? The BM camera has half the resolution of the Scarlet / Epic. How is that a RED Killer? You can't even swap out the battery on the BM came - that makes it pretty much useless in most production environments.
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I prefer to think of the BM as a camera that can run from external batteries, like a Red.. OR, run without..unlike a Red.. not sure what your point is?

I just wrote a tool to extract the full 2432x1366 raw data from a folder of BM DNGs (without the 2400x1350 crop that the dng file itself suggests via metadata .. also added debayering and some colour stuff.. very happy with the test images ive seem..
 
Has anyone picked their BT Scarlet at Red Hollywood or Irvine yet?
I paid mine on monday and i wish to pick mine soon.
 
Rich, please see some of my earlier posts in this thread about processing times. We are going as quickly as possible....
 
Lol, the more time it takes my camera to get here the more money gets put away for accessories... so, take your time...
 
Brent@RED said:
Rich, please see some of my earlier posts in this thread about processing times. We are going as quickly as possible....
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I'm not complaining at all, just curious. I thought I'd be charged while the order is being processed, but the money hasn't been collected. After the money is collected it's typically an additional 3-5 days to process?

I'm just really excited and would love to have a countdown for my baby to arrive. I'm thinking sometime early next month?
 
Thanks for your patience guys.. I feel your pain... and I know because I go through it as well. Brian & Sean who are in charge of our quality control will no longer give me ( or Jim ) a new camera until it goes through the process either.. no matter how much I beg, threaten or try to steal.... the most recent being the first Monochrome camera that came off the line. Those couple of days of waiting for QA to burn in and test felt like a year.

As painful as it is.. it's worth the wait knowing that you are getting a camera that is going to be ready to kick some ass out of the box without going sideways.
 
Brian Merlen said:
+1 on the useless plastic cam... that thing can't even change the mount, much less the battery, it can't over crank...it uses a codec most NLE's dont support yet...I could go on...
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BM usually supports all codecs and supports most of the NLE's it is purely a raw files not like red it is compress thats why you maybe don't know how to do with it.
 
Jarred Land said:
Thanks for your patience guys.. I feel your pain... and I know because I go through it as well. Brian & Sean who are in charge of our quality control will no longer give me ( or Jim ) a new camera until it goes through the process either.. no matter how much I beg, threaten or try to steal.... the most recent being the first Monochrome camera that came off the line. Those couple of days of waiting for QA to burn in and test felt like a year.

As painful as it is.. it's worth the wait knowing that you are getting a camera that is going to be ready to kick some ass out of the box without going sideways.
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Thanks Jarred, this was surprisingly very reassuring--especially since I've been very OCD about checking my order status. Honestly, it still feels like a dream and probably will until I feel the cold, hard, heavenly scarlet-x brain in my hands. I would've never guessed in a hundred years, that I would get to own my very own Red camera a hundred years earlier. But it's actually happening... Oh, it's actually happening.
 
Thanks Jim and Jarred. Transaction just carried out succesfully. Should ship from Red Europe by next week. Just wanted to thank you for the great opportunity, and for things such as the smaller cards for guys that are starting out. Feels good to be a part of the family. If it wasnt for this deal it would have taken my small studio years to finally own a scarlet, wasting good money on rentals. Not that rentals is bad but owning your own workhorse feels great. Still will rent epic when I need slomo but now we can capture most of the footage with our own gear. Feels awesome. Thanks again.
 
Jarred Land said:
Thanks for your patience guys.. I feel your pain... ...... As painful as it is.. it's worth the wait knowing that you are getting a camera that is going to be ready to kick some ass out of the box without going sideways.
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I was told by my RED Rep today that none of the battle tested orders will be processed until after Nov 1, 2012. As they become available after the QA process they will be allocated by order number. 14 days after ordering I was a bit disappointed to hear that, however I am reassured by the attention to detail in the explanation given by my rep. Despite having all of my accesories and warranty period starting on the date of invoice, that they are aware that I have no way of testing them and will be flexible within reason. I'll have all these really cool gadgets a month before I can test anything.

This was indeed a dream come true about three years earlier than I imagined. Thanks RED! In short order I will have a RED Scarlet X in hand and the waiting will be over.
 
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Received my Scarlet and accessories in the UK and am very happy, will be having a good play with my new kit this weekend.

Be interesting to know how many and what they were used on. I have a theory that there were approx 50 cameras used on the shoot.

On the naming thread (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?70486-Scarlet-Camera-Name-List) there is a gap between serial numbers 1300-1358, my serial number falls in between these numbers, assuming the cameras were supplied as a lot. Could be well off base here but nonetheless it's my guess...
 
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