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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Scarlet and Epic updates...

MadamImAdam said:
It used to be that the Red One had a HUGE sensor for a tiny fraction of the price the smaller-sensor guys were charging.

Today, the $17,500 Red One has a smaller sensor than a $2700 camera.

So there is only one logical step for Jim Jannard to take on Nov. 13.

He will announce that the price of the Red One is being cut to $999.
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That's pretty funny.:biggrin:
 
MadamImAdam said:
It used to be that the Red One had a HUGE sensor for a tiny fraction of the price the smaller-sensor guys were charging.

Today, the $17,500 Red One has a smaller sensor than a $2700 camera.

So there is only one logical step for Jim Jannard to take on Nov. 13.

He will announce that the price of the Red One is being cut to $999.
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You got the price upside down. Jim will reduce the RedOnes price to $666!:devil: lol
 
Ayoji said:
You got the price upside down. Jim will reduce the RedOnes price to $666!:devil: lol
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Helluva price!

666,666... 666,665...666,664...666,663...
 
MadamImAdam said:
It used to be that the Red One had a HUGE sensor for a tiny fraction of the price the smaller-sensor guys were charging.

Today, the $17,500 Red One has a smaller sensor than a $2700 camera.

So there is only one logical step for Jim Jannard to take on Nov. 13.

He will announce that the price of the Red One is being cut to $999.
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What filmcamera has a larger sensor for $2700?
 
First you announce this thing called the red camera, with features like,
A Wavelet based compression Codec, a super sized CMOS block that can produce close to 4k resolution, PL mount for Cineglass, 120 frames per second, (in 2K) and all for a price under 30K....

Many called it a scam......I guess they did not take the time to get to know you!

I can't wait until 11/13/08........I'm looking forward to Red Ray, Epic & Scarlet news!

Dave
 
Stu Maschwitz at prolost.blogspot.com has a very interesting article regarding what he feels Scarlet, and maybe even Epic, should have in terms of one particular feature that would grandly enhance the quality of the footage these cameras can produce in most cases. It is well worth a read.

I agree with him, being one of those few people that has spent years dealing with RAW images and can extract any look out of them, I feel that RAW is not for everybody. Far from it actually, and the totally unaltered look of RED images has done the camera as much good as bad, what with the ton of badly graded footage that has been posted here...
 
the new still cameras from nikon and canon have larger sensors, but they aren't really digital cinema tools. but there is nothing from stopping them making it so or putting an advanced version in an XL3/4 for canon and for nikon to get into that market
 
MadamImAdam said:
It used to be that the Red One had a HUGE sensor for a tiny fraction of the price the smaller-sensor guys were charging.

Today, the $17,500 Red One has a smaller sensor than a $2700 camera.

So there is only one logical step for Jim Jannard to take on Nov. 13.

He will announce that the price of the Red One is being cut to $999.
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Interesting.....I guess we will see price drop on F900 for example to say $500...:holloween:
 
Yes. Also, Varicams will be $200, and Panasonic will pay you $10 for each HVX200 you take off their hands.

That's just how the market works.
 
The problem other established camera makers have is that for years they have established certain pricing tiers to their product range that would seriously p**s off most of their customers if they suddenly introduced a Red equivalent camera. Bearing in mind that a Sony F35 is in the range of $300,000 how could they justify bringing out a camera that has a similar spec for a tiny fraction of the price? That's the beauty of Red - that they could come into the game and introduce a disruptively-priced camera for the "masses" with none of this baggage. A lot of other people had the same plan - put together a digital camera using mostly off-the-shelf components but Red is in a fairly unique business situation - with Jim Jannard being on the level of a kind of Howard Hughes [without the weirdness] / Tony Stark-type figure [ok, he doesn't really exist :)] - basically someone who's really well self-funded, motivated and knowledgeable who's just doing something he really loves and something that can be done...kind of like a mountain is there - so climb it!!
 
the question is, will Jim will be ballsy enough not to hold back technology on Scarlet that will undermine Red One?

we'll see. i personally have faith in him that he won't hold back technology for "marketing" reasons.
 
What is the possibility of Epic being 6K instead of 5K and Scarlet being 4K instead of 3K?

Randy
 
My first computer had 1K. Then I got a 16K one, then the upgrade to 48k. Bill says you don't need more than 640k, and I think I agree there.

Graeme
 
Cavemandude said:
What is the possibility of Epic being 6K instead of 5K and Scarlet being 4K instead of 3K?

Randy
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I hope epic will have improved dynamic range, 5-6K resolution, windowed 2k @ 400 fps, software update and loose about 5lbs of weight.
 
Tom said:
the question is, will Jim will be ballsy enough not to hold back technology on Scarlet that will undermine Red One?

we'll see. i personally have faith in him that he won't hold back technology for "marketing" reasons.
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I totally agree, again. Plus, IMO, it is in their marketing interest to blow the doors off everything as much as possible as fast as possible to get RED to be as established of a brand as possible, as soon as possible... lol... might sound confusing, sorry. But for the company's benefit the best thing right now would be to continue the R1 trend of stunning everyone, and to do so till Red is accepted by large production companies. To continue to twist our arm to the point where we can't help but buy their toys so that we teach ourselves how to use the stuff and the support workforce gets established. He needs to take over a piece of the big-time pie and I don't think a self made billionaire would want anything less. If anything he likely wants more than just a little piece. :)
It will take time, but to get the locomotive running and considering the funding and line of credit he must have available, he must be considering a long period of aggressive investment, a continuation of what he started... I personally see him keeping the pace for an absolute minimum of two years (that must have come up not long ago) and personally I'd guess about 5 years at least or R1 type releases... all while gradually building up the support for, and reliability of his products till they reach his creme de la creme standards.

oops... sorry about the rant. :watsup:
 
Graeme Nattress said:
My first computer had 1K. Then I got a 16K one, then the upgrade to 48k. Bill says you don't need more than 640k, and I think I agree there.

Graeme
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Graeme, you had the TRS-80? I had the exact same path!
 
Tom said:
the question is, will Jim will be ballsy enough not to hold back technology on Scarlet that will undermine Red One?

we'll see. i personally have faith in him that he won't hold back technology for "marketing" reasons.
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I don't think "holding back" is exactly part of Jim's nature. It's more like ... "leaping forward" ...
 
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