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Rokinon 24 and 14 Cine for Pre-Order

Thanks

Ordered 24mm

Edit: built in hood on the 14mm? No go for me
 
Terry VerHaar said:
Now, if they'd only come out with the damned 50!!
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+1

+++++ something like an 18/T1.5... the 14 is just far too slow at T3.1. If they can crack the 18/T1.5, we have a poor mans set of Superspeeds...

Mike
 
Mike 'Fireman' Ross said:
+1

+++++ something like an 18/T1.5... the 14 is just far too slow at T3.1. If they can crack the 18/T1.5, we have a poor mans set of Superspeeds...

Mike
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The 14mm also has lots of distortion. It's great if you don't have straight lines in frame, but it can be scary if you do.

The 18mm t1.5 would be HUGE (possibly literally, which is an issue) for low budget cinematic videographers. I think Samyang would be wise to manufacture it as APS-C only, since, as great as it would be on full frame, there is no way that lens would be affordable to manufacture. Nikon does have a patent on an 18mm f1.8, though, that covers FF! The advantage of the 5D has been the "full frame look," which is better micro-contrast with shallow focus affordably. A big part of that has been the availability of the 24mm f1.4 L and Samyang lenses and the Zeiss 25mm f2. With an 18mm f1.4, APS-C can play ball. Right now it's a stop and a third slower (in effect) due to sensor size, and the fastest affordable 18mm lenses are f2.8, whereas the 5D gets 24mm f1.4 (both faster and slightly wider).

Who needs another 50mm, it's a hard sell. "Cheap but decent" is a tough method of differentiate when there are so many decent, cheap 50mm lenses out there. f1.2 would sell, but it's not useful to videographers much; Zeiss is doing a huge 50mm with a retrofocus design, which is cool but not terribly useful, either.
 
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Mike 'Fireman' Ross said:
+1

+++++ something like an 18/T1.5... the 14 is just far too slow at T3.1. If they can crack the 18/T1.5, we have a poor mans set of Superspeeds...

Mike
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The economics of making a full frame wide angle that is faster than 2.8 is clearly a huge, huge hurdle...as no manufacturer has been able to do it.

For the smaller, more traditional S35mm sized sensor, being able to even reach F2/T2 has been easily achievable for decades (think of older Zeiss 16mm T2 wide angle primes from the 50's and 60's that you can still buy on ebay, that cover 35mm).

It would appear the the larger the negative, the more expensive it is to make faster wide angle lenses.
 
Kwan Khan said:
Yes. They do have plans on introducing a 50mm as well.
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The next one that they are going to release is the 85mm T1.5 Cine. I'm looking forward to the 24mm, 35mm, 50mm and 85mm all in T1.5. The choice between a Rokinon 14mm T3.1 (F2.8) that distorts and the Tokina 11-16mm F2.8 that doesn't seems obvious if you have an iris control.
 
Terry VerHaar said:
I know... but sooner rather than later, I am hoping. :smiley:
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Agreed
If not then, I will have to go to Nikon G series 1.8 route (with New Nikon Mount)
 
I just ordered a 85mm f/1.4 Rokinon with Canon mount. You say that the cine version will be released soon but I see that the current 85mm already has a manual aperture control. What would be the benefit of the cine version lens if released? (which I can not find in a google search)

-Samir
 
Samir Patel said:
I just ordered a 85mm f/1.4 Rokinon with Canon mount. You say that the cine version will be released soon but I see that the current 85mm already has a manual aperture control. What would be the benefit of the cine version lens if released? (which I can not find in a google search)

-Samir
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Samir, the cine versions have:

1. A proper focus gear to allow use with a follow focus

2. A declicked aperture ring, allowing you to smoothly ramp the aperture

The cine version of the 85mm isn't available yet, it's slated for future release.

Mike
 
Thanks Mike. I should probably cancel my order for the current version. Another Question:

I am working between Nikon and Canon and RED.
Should I just buy the Nikon version of these lenses and if so which would you suggest is the proper adapter to adapt to Canon and Scarlet/with Canon mount?

-Samir
 
Question - I have the Rokinon 8mm cine-type lens with the built in lens hood. Since the FOV on this lens is so wide, you could never put a matte box on it without getting it in the frame. In that case, I have been wondering what the downside of the built in lens hood is.

Now, with the 14mm - which is being shipped to me today - I am wondering the same question. Is it reasonable to imagine attaching a matte box. If not, what other disadvanyage might the lens hood cause?

Thanks for your thoughts.
 
Terry, thats why I went with the Tokina 11-16. Same aperature as the Rokinon 14mm, but you get the benefit of internal glass elements, zoom and should you need it, autofocus. Plus the Tokina does not have the image distortion that the 14mm Rokinon has.
 
Samyang just announced an APS-C 10mm f2.8. It looks mighty similar to the 14mm f2.8 and if it has the distortion that lens has I would just dismiss it in favor of the 11-16mm Tokina.

Maybe they've learned to control distortion, though. They had better if they want their T/S lens to take off, but it looks like a copy of the Canon version, so if that's the case...it could be amazing (and expensive).
 
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