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Does 'Base' Scarlet have XLR inputs or do I need a module?

You probably want the Pro IO module for full sized XLR ports, or the Base IO module for mini-XLRs.

Or you could go with the inputs on the brain, which (although being balanced and high quality) aren't the most robust sockets (only 3.5mm mini-jacks) so I'd be hesitant to rely on them for critical audio.
 
I thought the Scarlet Brain only had 1/8" sound input and you needed to pro module for any XLR. Could be wrong.
 
jimhare said:
I thought the Scarlet Brain only had 1/8" sound input and you needed to pro module for any XLR. Could be wrong.
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That's correct. Those 3.5mm TRS connectors are balanced though (which is unusual) and with the right converter cable should give the same quality as an XLR input, but they're really not that robust, so it's best to get an IO module for audio input.
 
Stephen Gentle said:
That's correct. Those 3.5mm TRS connectors are balanced though (which is unusual) and with the right converter cable should give the same quality as an XLR input, but they're really not that robust, so it's best to get an IO module for audio input.
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Point take but if the 3.5 mm inputs are threaded they will be much more suitable and secure for field work. Hopefully the will be threaded.
 
I have a feeling that 3rd party XLR adapters like THIS ONE will be seen attached to many 2/3" Scarlet brains.

The Pro I/O module costs $2950 (that's more than the 2/3" Scarlet brain!) whereas the Juicedlink XLR adapter above costs $299.*

*I know the Pro I/O module has much more going for it that just the audio inputs, but if somebody only wants full-size XLR on their Scarlet or Epic, the Juicedlink is certainly a more reasonable expense. At least until RED makes a full-size 2 XLR input only module (with manual controls) for less than $500.
 
Jaime Vallés said:
I have a feeling that 3rd party XLR adapters like THIS ONE will be seen attached to many 2/3" Scarlet brains.

The Pro I/O module costs $2950 (that's more than the 2/3" Scarlet brain!) whereas the Juicedlink XLR adapter above costs $299.*

*I know the Pro I/O module has much more going for it that just the audio inputs, but if somebody only wants full-size XLR on their Scarlet or Epic, the Juicedlink is certainly a more reasonable expense. At least until RED makes a full-size 2 XLR input only module (with manual controls) for less than $500.
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This is where people are getting confused. Adapters like the CX231 are for cameras with 1/8" unbalanced stereo inputs, two channels on a single jack. Won't work with Scarlet.

Scarlet has TWO 1/8" TRS jacks, each wired for balanced mono mic inputs with phantom power, just like an XLR. All that is needed is a female XLR to 1/8" TRS adapter cable to use any pro microphone.
 
David Rasberry said:
This is where people are getting confused. Adapters like the CX231 are for cameras with 1/8" unbalanced stereo inputs, two channels on a single jack. Won't work with Scarlet.

Scarlet has TWO 1/8" TRS jacks, each wired for balanced mono mic inputs with phantom power, just like an XLR. All that is needed is a female XLR to 1/8" TRS adapter cable to use any pro microphone.
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Oh, wow! That's even better! :sifone: However, there still aren't any manual audio knobs on the Scarlet & Epic brains. Perhaps an inexpensive, $200ish module from RED would fix that?
 
Jaime Vallés said:
Oh, wow! That's even better! :sifone: However, there still aren't any manual audio knobs on the Scarlet & Epic brains. Perhaps an inexpensive, $200ish module from RED would fix that?
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You also have to remember that the Red1 does not have any knobs on it either. All of the Red cameras are controled by digital progamable controls.
 
Cedric Akins said:
You also have to remember that the Red1 does not have any knobs on it either. All of the Red cameras are controled by digital progamable controls.
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Something tells me that this is going to be the way it works whether you are using an i/o module or going straight into the camera.
 
Terry VerHaar said:
Something tells me that this is going to be the way it works whether you are using an i/o module or going straight into the camera.
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Yeah:iagree:. I still have mixed feelings about this, being an audio guy, I prefer adjusting all of my audio signals with a knob. But there is a slimmer chance of accedental adjustments to your audio levels by the camera operator.
 
Can anybody post a link to the correct Female XLR to Male 1/8" to use with the fixed.
There seem to be quiet a selection.
I will be using it with a Senheisser 416 or Oktava MK-12 mainly for run and gun non-critical sound. I suppose a 2-3ft cable would be enough for onboard mic ?
 
Audio to Video

Audio to Video

....being an audio guy, I prefer adjusting all of my audio signals with a knob.
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There is a rotary encoder and a rocker on the Side Handle and REDmote... either one can adjust pre-amp levels if needed.
 
Dedicated Audio Knobs Please

Dedicated Audio Knobs Please

Oh, another opportunity to say this once again -

DEDICATED AUDIO LEVEL KNOBS ARE KEY

On the Pro IO / Audio Module, if there are not dedicated knobs (rotary encoders, if you prefer) for audio levels, we won't buy it. My Sound Devices has knobs. So does my EX. And the other cameras we shoot as hired guns - F900, VariCam, even old sync sound 16mm cameras. Knobs man, knobs. People like em. People put them on cameras. We use them.

Navigating through menus to change what a button does to a given channel and adjusting that channel, then changing the menu again to change to a different channel, is not the same as a KNOB FOR EACH CHANNEL. Its insane actually.

End rant. Will repeat in other threads as the opportunity arises.

Thanks!
 
tillHavis said:
Can anybody post a link to the correct Female XLR to Male 1/8" to use with the fixed.
There seem to be quiet a selection.
I will be using it with a Senheisser 416 or Oktava MK-12 mainly for run and gun non-critical sound. I suppose a 2-3ft cable would be enough for onboard mic ?
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I was wondering the same thing, there are quiet a few balanced and unbalanced and stereo options out there. Would anybody have a link to the correct Female XLR to Male 1/8" to use with a 416

Also a small device like this may help protect the 1/8 jacks. If it plugged into the two jacks it should make the connections more robust and sturdy than a single 1/8 connection.

http://www.siniarchproductions.com/lsdsgn/fws01.htm

Thanks
 
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