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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Revealing Production Premium CS6

Les C. said:
1. What are the rolling shutter values for Scarlet and Epic for the new rolling shutter tool?

2. Is there a feature comparison between Resolve and SpeedGrade?

3. Is SpeedGrade nodal, or does it just use layers (btw - I'd strongly prefer nodes).

BTW - very glad I switched from FCP!
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Les, he already posted a link to the Speedgrade white paper that answers your questions

Here it is again http://success.adobe.com/assets/en/downloads/guides/SG_CS6_Intro_Reveal.pdf

David, CS6 looks great! I've been using Resolve for Mac since it came out a couple of years ago. I dont see that going away for me, and I hope that the XML for FCP option becomes more fully capable which will help with getting Premiere projects into Resolve. That said, I'm looking forward to exploring Speedgrade...particularly as an alternative to RCX Pro for dailies generation.
 
Paul Nordin said:
Les, he already posted a link to the Speedgrade white paper that answers your questions

Here it is again http://success.adobe.com/assets/en/downloads/guides/SG_CS6_Intro_Reveal.pdf

David, CS6 looks great! I've been using Resolve for Mac since it came out a couple of years ago. I dont see that going away for me, and I hope that the XML for FCP option becomes more fully capable which will help with getting Premiere projects into Resolve. That said, I'm looking forward to exploring Speedgrade...particularly as an alternative to RCX Pro for dailies generation.
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We continue to improve our FCP XML import/export and work with Resolve when issues are raised. It should be working pretty well and we have lots of users using that workflow. If not go to our bug form and fill out a bug :)

Cheers

Dave
 
Yes, please clarify on control surfaces- Avid Color with Speedgrade?

Also, will Premiere allow for any control surfaces? Would be nice to have some real faders for the audio automation.

Really good stuff guys!
 
David,

I don't understand the RAW workflow. If Send to Adobe SpeedGrade creates a DPX sequence for SpeedGrade to use, how is RAW used by SpeedGrade?

Thanks for your help.
 
LYNDA has a tutorial on premiere 6 already. Just received an email from them.
 
Peter Moretti said:
David,

I don't understand the RAW workflow. If Send to Adobe SpeedGrade creates a DPX sequence for SpeedGrade to use, how is RAW used by SpeedGrade?

Thanks for your help.
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I am very confused by that as well....I hope we can use native r3d files when we send the time line from premiere to speedgrade....or it's a step backward...
 
Peter Moretti said:
David,

I don't understand the RAW workflow. If Send to Adobe SpeedGrade creates a DPX sequence for SpeedGrade to use, how is RAW used by SpeedGrade?

Thanks for your help.
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It was a little bit confusing, but I know you can go easily via EDL and I assume that you can easily reconform if necessary afterwards. The 'send to speedgrade' is just a convenient button that runs a script. Not for everyone. It would be nice to just open a premiere/ae project inside speedgrade, or drag and drop, or have a 'replace w/ speedgrade' inside premiere.
 
Paul Nordin said:
Les, he already posted a link to the Speedgrade white paper that answers your questions

Here it is again http://success.adobe.com/assets/en/downloads/guides/SG_CS6_Intro_Reveal.pdf
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Actually, it doesn't. I searched for node and nodal in the pdf and didn't find it, but .. that doesn't tell me if SpeedGrade is also nodal like Resolve, Fusion, etc. - or only uses layers.

I'm sure there are strong points of both programs - and I hope that Adobe will offer a comparison. If it's possible to stay with R3Ds for the entire workflow - and render using AME - that would be a real plus over Resolve.

I did find another video that seems to indicate that the rolling shutter removal effect uses a percentage rather than the # of ms of actual rolling shutter - but knowing the percentages used for Scarlet and Epic would be useful.
 
Les C. said:
Actually, it doesn't. I searched for node and nodal in the pdf and didn't find it, but .. that doesn't tell me if SpeedGrade is also nodal like Resolve, Fusion, etc. - or only uses layers.

I'm sure there are strong points of both programs - and I hope that Adobe will offer a comparison. If it's possible to stay with R3Ds for the entire workflow - and render using AME - that would be a real plus over Resolve.

I did find another video that seems to indicate that the rolling shutter removal effect uses a percentage rather than the # of ms of actual rolling shutter - but knowing the percentages used for Scarlet and Epic would be useful.
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Hey Les,
from the white paper it is layer based and not node based.
 
"Powerful layer-based color grading."
 
Looks like some great improvements in there. Especially loving the updated multicam support - been hanging out on that one for ages now :)

Keen to get my hands on a copy to see if some of the smaller bugs from 5.5 have been squashed :)
 
Another vote for 6970M support here.... There are plenty of people using iMacs, not as many as are using the MacBook Pros obviously but it's still a popular choice for some on a budget. CS5.5 is awesome without getting the acceleration from this, getting it into CS6 would make my day.
 
I'm really hoping they add node-based options in both After Effects and Speedgrade in the future. Layers are great for quick and simple work, and maintains consistency with other softwares, but it will always be lacking something without nodes. Layers get messy and inefficient for serious work. Sometimes you just need to make a web.
 
paulherrin said:
I'm really hoping they add node-based options in both After Effects and Speedgrade in the future. Layers are great for quick and simple work, and maintains consistency with other softwares, but it will always be lacking something without nodes. Layers get messy and inefficient for serious work. Sometimes you just need to make a web.
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The Big Iron colorist that use Baselight would probably not necessarily agree with your feelings about layers being less capable.
 
paulherrin said:
I'm really hoping they add node-based options in both After Effects and Speedgrade in the future. Layers are great for quick and simple work, and maintains consistency with other softwares, but it will always be lacking something without nodes. Layers get messy and inefficient for serious work. Sometimes you just need to make a web.
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2nd that! Some things easily done in Fusion with nodes, would be a real pain in AE.

Have a "power-user" nodal interface in addition to the 'normal-user' layers.

With the nodal competion from Resolve and other apps, I hope Adobe moves in this direction one day.
 
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