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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Revealing Production Premium CS6

I watched both the Lynda.com video's:
http://www.lynda.com/After-Effects-tutorials/After-Effects-CS-New-Features/101075-2.html 2 hr's 13 min
http://www.lynda.com/Premiere-Pro-tutorials/Premiere-Pro-CS-New-Features/101074-2.html 3 hr's 22 min's (ok ... i fell asleep on a section of this ... but it's still great)

Couple take aways, after effects work flow for me is speeded up by a factor of 4 to 6 times with the new caching approaches .... but i need to upgrade to a higher/larger ssd (the new caching is awesome).
As you watch this, you can tell everything is completly thought through, and this is not "beta" ... but CS6 looks totally rock solid (so i expect it out real soon).

Lynda.com really is a amazing site, I can't imagine not having a subscription to it, i mean like 5 hours of tutorials ... on stuff i need to know ... before cs6 is even out on the street.
 
Paul Nordin said:
The Big Iron colorist that use Baselight would probably not necessarily agree with your feelings about layers being less capable.
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I can cut my grass with a weedeater, but that doesn't make it a more enjoyable experience.

I prefer Nuke for compositing and Resolve for grading. I like nodes. I like to actually see how everything is connecting. Some people like layers, obviously. Fine. I can get the exact same final result either way - nodes just get closer to the way my brain puts things together. I'm open to hearing their benefits and having a better understanding of why people might prefer them. What I don't understand is why we can't just have the option of both.
 
"Lynda.com really is a amazing site, I can't imagine not having a subscription to it, i mean like 5 hours of tutorials ... on stuff i need to know ... before cs6 is even out on the street."
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There are also free video series (about 2 hours each) on video2brain about all of the new and changed features in Premiere Pro and After Effects. I'm biased toward these because I made them. ;-)

After Effects
http://www.video2brain.com/en/products-313.htm

Premiere Pro
http://www.video2brain.com/en/products-321.htm
 
The issue with the RED presets was a bug in the installation/activation system that only affected a very smal fraction of users. We think that we squashed this bug in CS6.

The only gamma issues that I'm aware of are with QuickTime being inconsistent in how it writes and interprets a gamma metadata tag. If you have any gamma shift issues that don't involve QuickTime, then that's especially interesting, and you should submit a bug report: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish
 
Excellent stuff Adobe. I've recently switched over to an entirely Adobe pipeline and have been very pleased so far. My only major complaint has been the lack of a good color grading suite to work seamlessly with AE and Prem so I'm very excited about SpeedGrade.

One other little thing I would have been keen to see was full integration of the BG Render Script which allows you to continue working in AE whilst something is rendering.
 
Speedgrade question:

In watching the videos I've been able to find online it is hard to see the output formats available after you finish grading your project. Is there a list of output formats anywhere?

Would you be able to load a Speedgrade project into Adobe Media Encoder the way you can with a Premiere project or After Effects comp so you can access all the file formats and presets available in AME?
 
Paul J Steinberg said:
Speedgrade question:

In watching the videos I've been able to find online it is hard to see the output formats available after you finish grading your project. Is there a list of output formats anywhere?

Would you be able to load a Speedgrade project into Adobe Media Encoder the way you can with a Premiere project or After Effects comp so you can access all the file formats and presets available in AME?
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I can see if I can get you a list of exported formats but I know it is pretty complete. All your normal friends are there. Speedgrade being as new to the Adobe family as it is hasn't had time to integrate with AME but we will get this as we further integrate Speedgrade into our suite.

Cheers

Dave
 
Harrison Diamond said:
Another vote for 6970M support here.... There are plenty of people using iMacs, not as many as are using the MacBook Pros obviously but it's still a popular choice for some on a budget. CS5.5 is awesome without getting the acceleration from this, getting it into CS6 would make my day.
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We only have time to "certify" a small amount of Cards. We don't list this as a supported card and did not test on it. Remember you need at least 1 Gig to make Mercury GPU work.

Cheers

Dave
 
David McGavran said:
I can see if I can get you a list of exported formats but I know it is pretty complete. All your normal friends are there. Speedgrade being as new to the Adobe family as it is hasn't had time to integrate with AME but we will get this as we further integrate Speedgrade into our suite.

Cheers

Dave
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So, you'd use SpeedGrade essential like Resolve, exporting out an image sequence, and then using AE to re-purpose for final output format?

What about nested sequences, can 'send to Resolve' deal with those?
 
Are the Open CL performances on the two currently supported cards comparable let's say to a GTX 285 with CUDA?
 
Robino_J said:
Are the Open CL performances on the two currently supported cards comparable let's say to a GTX 285 with CUDA?
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Just FYI - nVidia crippled opengl after the 285, so that newer cards may run 10 times slower. I'm wondering how this affects AE - which now uses a lot of opengl.

Not sure if opencl is just mapped to opengl calls, but something to think about. CUDA is not affected and is faster on newer cards.
 
Robino_J said:
Are the Open CL performances on the two currently supported cards comparable let's say to a GTX 285 with CUDA?
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I don't know if we did direct comparisons with that card. I can say that doing don't stop playback with a three way color corrector is aswesome on my laptop.

Cheers

Dave
 
I really appreciate that Adobe is continually working with Blackmagic too. I like choices, and I like nodes (anybody remember Eddy on SGI?).

I know Speedgrade is a very professional tool, but I think I'll stick to Resolve. I don't see nothing from Adobe to make this any harder for us.

And thank you very much for doing away with the hardware specific timeline in Premiere. Now that more and more Thunderbolt I/O devices are available, I'm looking forward to coming back with my laptop from a hotel room and plugging it right into a professional suite!
 
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