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Resolve for PC - When?

Linux is alive and well and I don't foresee a change in that any time soon. Windows will however perform extremely well for anyone doing HD/2K, 24/25/30 fps work which is currently the majority of grading work.
Peter
 
Peter,

If I don't need SDI or deck control, will an Intensity Pro card work just as well as a Declink card w/ MC 6 and Resolve? I'd be using it inside a PC w/ a Quadro 2000.

Thanks much.
 
Marc Wielage said:
Peter, will there eventually be a Windows version of Resolve that does everything the Linux version does? Is the ultimate goal to move away from Linux and towards Windows, or will Blackmagic continue to support both for the forseeable future?
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I'm giving up on the Mac world given the inevitable demise of Mac Pro and moving (back) to Windows. Hopefully, BM will indeed make a commitment to Windows because I certainly have no desire to invest time/energy/money into an entirely new platform like Linux having been burned by the Mac world once already.
 
Windows Resolve 8.2 .... all you'll ever need

Windows Resolve 8.2 .... all you'll ever need

Nikhil Kamkolkar said:
I'm giving up on the Mac world given the inevitable demise of Mac Pro and moving (back) to Windows. Hopefully, BM will indeed make a commitment to Windows because I certainly have no desire to invest time/energy/money into an entirely new platform like Linux having been burned by the Mac world once already.
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Nikhil,

Blackmagic Design has already made a serious commitment to Windows ... Resolve 8.2 running on a Windows Intel machine will answer all your wildest desires!

We've been an Apple MacPro post-house for the last six years ... on Wednesday we got a brand new Intel system with a few Quadro 6000 cards .... interesting to compare a Sony F3 stereo 3D feature running on a high end MacPro system against a Wintel box running the same project ... night and day ... chalk and cheese ... any other metaphor you want to choose.

Listen carefully to what Peter is saying ... BMD has a game plan for making professional grading much more exciting and affordable ... Apple have a different plan - see FCP X on a Mac Mini with Thunderbolt.

All will be revealed in the fullness of time ... in the meantime, hang loose ... Moore's Law will eventually triumph and make everything good for all of us.

As an ex-msft guy, I'm betting on Mr. Moore ... as a certain billg used to say ... it's like drinking from a fire-hose.

Adapt ... survive ... thrive!

Neil
 
Perhaps I am the odd man out on this topic. I think that development on Linux platform for more apps would make a TON of sense from a pure stability, purpose-built sense.

I, like many others here, have a ton of Apple hardware, but recently I am beginning to concur with others the idea that Apple is interested in diverging from the Pro market and is more interested in selling a billion iDevices that cannot handle the current Pro workload. I am still hopeful for a dual octocore MacPro with support for 64GB ram, at least 7 PCI slots w/ >= 40 lanes, support for SLI and more CUDA cards, and a dual dual-Thunderbolt controller in their 2012 refresh (hey, I can dream, right).

And whilst Windows 7 x64 is an order of magnitude better in many ways than Vista, it is still Windows and it suffers from many of the same flaws it has for years.

Linux can be purpose built and compiled to contain none of the bloat and inefficiencies that Win7 tends to be compiled with, not the least of which is the NTFS filesystem and its wonderful fragmentation, due to its inherent poor indexing and optimization methods. Over the last decade, many hosting providers and datacenter servers run Linux of some flavor or another. But the app development for the workstation and desktop user still lags due to the ubiquity of Windows, and to a lesser extent OS X.

But to get back on the thread topic, I personally would love to see a lite version for Linux, or at least a non-cluster Linux version that was not in the 5-figures.

Just a thought.
 
Jon Thomasberg said:
But to get back on the thread topic, I personally would love to see a lite version for Linux, or at least a non-cluster Linux version that was not in the 5-figures.

Just a thought.
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We offer the Linux configurations starting from 1 GPU, 2 GPU and 4 GPU. All of these are a single server configuration, with the 4 GPU using a Cubix PCI-E expansion.
 
We are reasonably happy with our Mac version of resolve. Still, given the recent attitude from Apple to neglect the Pro community, odds are we would need to move to a PC version in the future.

Still, I would like to toy with the idea of a Linux version rather than a Windows version. Windows just doesn't cut it when it comes to a certain level, unless you are talking about special windows flavors like Server 2008.

As for the Linux version, the problem is the lack of software from other vendors, like Adobe, yet a standalone workstation running Red Hat is pretty solid, problem is, it becomes a purpose driven computer just for running apps like Resolve and nothing more, and these days buying a computer that can only run "one app" doesn't seem that reasonable either.

Hopefully Apple will not defraud and release a new Mac Pro, and hopefully the PC version of Resolve will run on Server 2008.

And if none of that happens, well, we will keep working our Mac Pro until we have the cash to replace it with a Linux version, hopefully with the nice Resolve Panel instead of the Tangent Wave.
 
ERIC PECK said:
As for the Linux version, the problem is the lack of software from other vendors, like Adobe, yet a standalone workstation running Red Hat is pretty solid, problem is, it becomes a purpose driven computer just for running apps like Resolve and nothing more, and these days buying a computer that can only run "one app" doesn't seem that reasonable either.
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I would say that's it's incredibly reasonable and highly recommended to set up a machine as an appliance, optimized for running a particular application, and immune to the inconsistencies, driver conflicts, and other hardware and software issues that you often get when you try to set up a machine to do everything. If you're running real time programs like Resolve, you want all the performance you can get and minimal aggravation. Computers are pretty cheap these days, and in the case of Resolve, the software is even cheaper. In a professional environment, there's no reason other than physical convenience to run multiple complex programs on one machine, although I will confess that I have Resolve and Media Composer on the same machine at home... ;-D..

Besides, in the Linux world, it's pretty easy to set up networks and access multiple CPU's from one terminal.
 
Resolve Windows is pretty damn sweet

Resolve Windows is pretty damn sweet

ERIC PECK said:
We are reasonably happy with our Mac version of resolve. Still, given the recent attitude from Apple to neglect the Pro community, odds are we would need to move to a PC version in the future.

Still, I would like to toy with the idea of a Linux version rather than a Windows version. Windows just doesn't cut it when it comes to a certain level, unless you are talking about special windows flavors like Server 2008.

As for the Linux version, the problem is the lack of software from other vendors, like Adobe, yet a standalone workstation running Red Hat is pretty solid, problem is, it becomes a purpose driven computer just for running apps like Resolve and nothing more, and these days buying a computer that can only run "one app" doesn't seem that reasonable either.

Hopefully Apple will not defraud and release a new Mac Pro, and hopefully the PC version of Resolve will run on Server 2008.

And if none of that happens, well, we will keep working our Mac Pro until we have the cash to replace it with a Linux version, hopefully with the nice Resolve Panel instead of the Tangent Wave.
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Eric,

I wouldn't write off the Window's version of Resolve until you've tested it out ... like you, we are "reasonably happy" with the Mac version of Resolve (we have three Mac Resolve systems and have graded a ton of features and TV shows this year on Resolve 8) ... but with the Mac Pro rumored to be approaching EOL we're looking at alternative platforms ... the price/performance curve of a new Wintel system running Win Resolve is pretty astonishing!

I haven't touched a PC in over six years and getting used to Win 7 is a bit of a challenge :-( ... but running Win Resolve is really worth the learning curve ... suggest you give it a test drive before you make any investment decisions ... Linux is a great OS but the problem is always getting the latest device drivers as well as the apps.

You might be more than "reasonably happy" with Win Resolve ;-)

Neil
 
you got 4x 580 in one system..? sick.
running 1x 580 gtx here on win7 and it plays fine at half res so far

the only thing a message for decklink card drivers pops up sometimes, while I don't have a decklink installed.

I do have a question; Someone know how to copy a grade over from one clip to another? //nevermind found it by middle mouse clicking...
 
Patrick O'Sullivan said:
Amazing. This just took things to a whole new level.

4 x 580gtxs = nirvana
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Judging by the performance I am getting off a single GPU, I am guessing Quadro 600 for GUI + 2 x GTX 580 should suffice for most usage scenarios, unless you intend on working with many nodes. For HD, even a single GPU seems overkill! I gave up at about 10 nodes, and it was still real-time. R3D is bottlenecked by the CPU debayer process.

I have several minor niggles thus far, which I will try to list out later. I think most of these will be personal issues not applicable to most users. The interface doesn't seem to use much of Windows. There are no "windows" (except dockable scopes), there's no VFW support, no seamless drag and drop etc. The missing VFW is a deal-breaker for my workflow, unfortunately. I was hoping with this version of Resolve would support native XDCAM-EX - that is still missing (Rewrapping to QT is not very appealing on Windows). Most of all, I was hoping for full fledged OpenCL acceleration for AMD GPUs.
 
How can I tell if Resolve Lite is using the GPU or the RED Rocket?
 
Awesome! I have downloaded, will test it tomorrow evening Swedish time.
I think my system is well over the recommended specs for the Lite version, it doesn't have 4K so I don't need 4xGTX580. When it does or when I recieve such jobs I will upgrade both my system and the paid version of resolve.

What's the cheepest grading hardware out there? Artist color? Do I have to have the decklink? Can't I use some other BlackMagic hardware?
 
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