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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Remind me not to rent anything to this guy :-)

David M said:
Mr Neveldine claims RED moved the power button after his experiences running through pyrotechnics with a RED on his shoulder. Is that true?
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It's possible. He was one of the early testers of the camera... There's a picture somewhere of him hand-holding a minimal RED configuration in one hand, low to the ground, while the other hand holds onto a car dragging him along (he's wearing inline skates) at about 50mph. :)
 
RED redesigned the shape of their power button back around this time [from a small, concave button to a larger, convex button], but did not change its location since sometime before early 2006 [when my folder of RED imagery begins]. They also changed the side record button from convex to flat, added the impact protectors around the joystick, reshaped the PL mount ears and added the access panels on the bottom of the camera for the now defunct "winter strips".

The redesigned button is larger and protrudes out from the camera. It was a step backwards in my personal opinion... but that's just me. I always pop the button [cap] out on any job I'm on, leaving just the small, white plunger on the inside. It's more difficult to accidentally power down the camera without the power button [cap] in place.

He may be referring to an earlier redesign, of course.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
It's possible. He was one of the early testers of the camera... There's a picture somewhere of him hand-holding a minimal RED configuration in one hand, low to the ground, while the other hand holds onto a car dragging him along (he's wearing inline skates) at about 50mph. :)
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you mean this one:
 

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I suspect he is referring to the ability to disable the button as well.

What do RedUsers think of someone who unnecessarily puts themselves in danger on shoots? The rollerskating shot above is just plain stupid and could have easily been a simple door mount. Having actors run through explosions? Right.
 
Having literally split a helmet before and not being in a coma as a result I think going without a helmet at any time is completely senseless. I imagine it would be a lot harder to raise the camera up while driving with a car mount.

I think someone who is willing to take that kind of risk though is the sort of person who has an easier time making it as a director.
 
Gavin Greenwalt said:
I think someone who is willing to take that kind of risk though is the sort of person who has an easier time making it as a director.
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If a director tried to pull a stunt like that on a job where I was a crewmember, I would quietly go to the producer and say that the director wishes to do something which may be dangerous to himself, the gear, and possibly the crew. Does your insurance cover the director roller-skating while hanging onto the camera with one hand and a car with the other? Will someone be available to take over if he is hospitalized?

We all have a responsibility for maintaining a safe workplace. There is no shot worth dying for. Sometimes a director or cameraman will be overcome with passion or power and forget that.
 
I'm handicap and still I always pull off stunts that are just stupid to some, but a necessity to achieve my shot and give my creative filmmaking a unique look, many shots performed with fixed, yet safe car mounts and such, will not ever give you the effects achieved by motion,movement of the camera while filming, and to do so hand held such as in the shot above, it is far simpler then creating a very complex Car mount set up, never mind if you want camera movement, then a motorized jib must be also put in to place controlled by computers, and the rig gets very expensive and very complicated very fast.


One must be very careful as to say, I'll go to the producer and bitch about what the director is about to do, and that will be the last job you will have in the business.. possibly.

Good think for me is that I'm the Director, and the Producer, and no matter what I'm the one in absolute charge of what is going on on my set, so what ever any one would have to say against my doing, it will matter very little.

BTW: as to regards the dangerous shots as above, or walking thru explosions of fire while holding the camera, then I suggest not to watch the insane shots for "GAMER"!
 
dude! Ill do the craziest shit for a shot.
who cares if its dangerous. if someone is willing to do it, thats their problem. How would rollerskating by tow of car going 5 mph endanger anyone except for a replaceable camera or a possible broken leg director. its all good
 
Brent J. Craig said:
We all have a responsibility for maintaining a safe workplace. There is no shot worth dying for. Sometimes a director or cameraman will be overcome with passion or power and forget that.
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You could say the same thing about people racking up $60k in credit card debt to make their feature film.

It's not sensible. It's not something I would do--I'm far to pragmatic on likely ROI to go hugely in debt if I can't afford it. But those who are willing have a leg up on those who aren't. It might kill/bankrupt them. But if the gamble pays off then they're often more likely to win than those who never gamble at all.

At some point to succeed you have to take some risks. The psychology of risky behavior can be very advantageous in entrepreneurship/career path... for those who don't lose the bet.
 
After watching him run through explosions 6 feet behind a stunt double, flying through the air on a pulley system high above pyro techs and gun fire only after taking all the necessary precautions that they could, I can tell you that I personally didn't think he was reckless and stupid. I wanted to be in his shoes. I gained [an additional] huge amount of respect for him, his crew and the way they worked. You should have seen the no-nonsense method they worked in anytime there was a risk of anyone getting so much as a splinter. But then again I used to throw myself off of cliffs for fun just because I happened to have a snowboard strapped to my feet.

Some like roller blading camera shots, some like stationary dolly shots, some people like jumping the grand canyon on a motor cycle with a camera strapped to their helmet. To each their own.
 
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I love what I do and how I do it! The reason is because I'm an independent and will always be, no matter the budget and or size of the MOvie and crew, or what ever studio could be behind me, if I can't do what I want how I want, I wouldn't do it!!

Neveldine, reminds me of why I do what I do, is just great to watch him work, even if I pain for him, knowing the BS He has to go thru with Studio finances, but sure do love the style.
 
Sean R. said:
But then again I used to throw myself off of cliffs for fun just because I happened to have a snowboard strapped to my feet.
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Yeah that's never made sense to me either. It's like strap skis to my feet and suddenly the world is a safe and harmless place. :D

Magic Talismans.
 
Curran Giddens said:
another pic. of course these shots don't show him going 50, but I remember the thread said he did at one point.
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Yeah, that's the whole reason I remembered the thread, the speed. Jim said he was going 50, so I'll believe it. 5mph? shrugs, big deal..
 
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