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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

REDucation

Peter Salvia said:
I watched FXPHD's course offerings of RED 102 & RED 206 before attending. I have about ten years post experience but no hands on RED work and these classes were a huge boost to my REDucation experience.
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Thanks Peter, checking their site only shows RED203 and Im not sure if its on video?
 
RED 203 looks like a good course, everything I've taken at FXPHD has been worthwhile.
 
I was thinking about doing a REDucation a few days before NAB, but now that we have the booth at NAB again this year, there may be too much going on to coordinate that in Vegas this time - plus I think the class works much better at our Studio then in a convention ballroom in Vegas... so I'm looking a potentially a REDucation class in Mid March, a few weeks before NAB, or in May, after NAB... love to get feedback on what people would prefer and who would be interested in attending

just send me email directly ted@red.com
 
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Joseph Hutson said:
Will there be a REDucation just before NAB in Vegas?
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Since Im more in the data management/post compositing end of the RED spectrum at my work, Ill be asking a lot of questions. So please, dont kick me out of the booth too quickly ;)
 
TedRed said:
I was thinking about doing a REDucation a few days before NAB, but now that we have the booth at NAB again this year, there may be too much going on to coordinate that in Vegas this time - plus I think the class works much better at our Studio then in a convention ballroom in Vegas... so I'm looking a potentially a REDucation class in Mid March, a few weeks before NAB, or in May, after NAB... love to get feedback on what people would prefer and who would be interested in attending

just send me email directly ted@red.com
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I say in mid-march, that way while the EPICs are rolling out, people can be getting the info they need, then by NAB, you guys will be less overwhelmed, and if you do it in May, its a bit too far into EPICs being shipped.
 
I can see that mid-March, before NAB, would work great! I feel that the class sooner in the year is going to help everyone have a stronger year of shooting, and allow crews to better prepare themselves to roll into their summer projects. I would definitely appreciate it. I hope that wouldn't put to much strain on your team before NAB. However, I am planning on attending whenever and have been really looking forward to it!
 
Seems like I'm in the minority, but I would prefer it in May closer to when most of us receive the Epic ... also, I know workflow for the R1 and Epic are very similar but still would love this Reducation to have as much Epic emphasis as possible. Thanks Ted!
 
Ted, don't listen to these guys. There is only one smart thinking time to have your class and that's just before Cinegear. That would place it last week of May. Nice weather. Lots of things to do. And a great time to meet real people in the business, not just a lot of salesmen.
 
+1 for May or later.
 
Ted, I'm asking here rather than in email so others can benefit from the answer: frankly, how much prior film making experience is a reasonable prerequisite to getting the best out of these classes?

Thanks

Mike
 
Hi Mike,

I'm not Ted, but I'm an alum of the first Reducation, and I've taught at several now. We have folks with all levels of experience, quite a few have never touched a RED before, up to somebody like Blair who could have easily been an instructor. Ted, Michael, and Mark work with the TA's to allow people to self direct their training by interest and experience level a great deal over the course of the training.

For example, I might do a deep dive on exposure, Big Lu on trans-coding in RedCine-x, and someone else on ramping or looks management.

Speaking solely for myself here, the vast majority of professional camera work isn't on features, IMO the training quite correctly focuses not on movie making, but on how to create a great image with Red cameras, the various strategies and technologies (small indie to large feature workflows), to get that great image off the camera, back it up, get it through editorial and post and have a great looking result. This is all done in a very hands on manner.

I'd bet if you asked alums you'd find that one of the most valuable parts of the experience is meeting and working with others in the Red community, and the opportunity to ask very specific questions of folks who work with the camera every day.

I know I don't always know the answer, but if I don't it's very likely another instructor will, or we will dig up the info for you.

I expect the main course will remain very similar to previous offerings.

Having said all that, this is the first time for the new two day focus areas (save 3D which we did last time), so I'll defer to Ted to provide you an answer for that portion.

Hope that helps,

Steve
 
Thanks Steve... my situation is I'm an experienced stills photographers, used to working with RAW files, messing with HDR etc - but very little experience with the moving image and no formal training whatever in cinematography. I'm a stills guy looking to branch out, effectively - and hoping I'm going to be a quick-study self-taught cinematographer; almost all of what I shoot will be in the field, EFP-style documentary stuff. And I've chosen RED to do it. I'll speak to SWMBO and see if I can sign up for the class :-)

In the meantime I'm self-teaching RED, and sweating over RCX - and those bits of CS5 I've never touched before - like PPro! :biggrin5:

Mike
 
Mike 'Fireman' Ross said:
Ted, I'm asking here rather than in email so others can benefit from the answer: frankly, how much prior film making experience is a reasonable prerequisite to getting the best out of these classes?

Thanks

Mike
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Hi Mike,

I attended Reducation last summer in Burbank. I can say that it is well worth it - the college that I teach at covered it for me, but had that not been the case, I would have paid myself. I have cinematography and film making experience, but had never touched a RED camera before the class. I also have a lot of experience dealing with RAW images in the still world.

For quite a while before attending, I was learning everything I could from here, and experimenting with grading .R3D files in RedCine-X, trying different work flows, etc... I can say that this definitely helped since I had at least some base knowledge to go on, but at the same time it was not absolutely necessary.

As far as actual film making experience is concerned, you could get through no problem without it. There may be some terms that you would not recognize immediately, but that is not a problem, you will pick it up, and the instructors were always there to answer anything that they could. As Stephen said, the training focuses on creating images with Red cameras, various work flow strategies, looks, storage, and a host of other important topics related to Red (way too many to list).

I had zero Red camera experience before going, but felt very comfortable with the RED ONE in a very short time frame. There will always be something that you can delve deeper into, but as an overall camera experience, it is surprisingly easy to use, and was my favorite part of the course. I would have wished for a bit more time with the cameras, but did get a good deal of very nice footage that I still am experimenting with today while I patiently wait for Epic-S.

Reducation is an intense week, in a good way. You will learn a vast amount, and gain some great experience in a fairly short time frame. The instructors are awesome (I am sure they change somewhat from class to class) but Red does a great job of bringing some ultra talented people.
 
some more fun on the REDucation front... we just posted this video today that Michael Cioni and I shot at his post house, LightIron last week, on 2 EPICs, busting some Myths about RED post production and showing were we are today with post on RED footage...

http://vimeo.com/23805390

(also posted on the Learn area of red.com

http://www.red.com/learn/reducation)

For those that want a trip down memory lane, I did a quick google search and found the original RED mythbusters from years ago, the post house that Michael worked for at the time no longer exists but the video is still fun and relevant to watch - interesting how viable post was even way back then, and now years later how much more advanced it is in so many ways. back then we looked at lower rez pixels for the offline and big screen viewing from the 4k, these days with the power of the RED Rocket card we can watch RED and EPIC footage in full rez without any rendering, and prep advanced editing files for FCP and Avid in realtime using the Rocket card - pretty great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHrpGX9DP5E

Take a look when you have some time. I have a few other things in the works as well that we've shot over the past few months, including an in depth interview I did in Indonesia with a director of a great family movie called Red Dog, that I'll be putting up when they are ready.


Thanks

+ Ted
 
Ohhhh what a night,
ready to bust more myths.

Luis
 
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