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RED Rocket

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Jeff, it’s not clear how it looks, if it’s outside the box or inside, yes it will work with 4K and 5K, how I’m not sure. It would have been better seeing a ‘picture’. I have a lot more questions now than before it was announced. I’m sure it will work great; it’s the details that were left out!

As I said; Red will release the information when they are ready, they have a great plan for the future whether it be tomorrow, next week, or beyond. That’s what I was looking forward to seeing, I also was not at the NAB, so all I see it’s what on-line.

On the RPPs it would be nice to again see individual ‘pictures’ of each lens
In due course, it will all come out!

Humberto Rivera
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
And just what information were you hoping would be announced?

RED RAY and RED ROCKET are pretty big. No news announced as far as cameras, but there were prototypes on display and some new things visible if you look. I've only seen a handful of pictures as I wasn't there.

For me, RED RAY wasn't really "news". It was more of a "holy shit, it's really going to work!" sort of moment. Last year at NAB Jim told me (and probably a thousand other people) that RED RAY would be able to play 4K from standard DVD-R media at typical DVD data rates. That's < 10Mbps.. Here we are. One year later and they are showing 4K footage playing from a 10Mbps stream. It's going to be huge.
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Jeff how did the image from the 10mps look , was it as good as the other demo's red has done ?
 
The bad news about REDRAY is that yes, the image looked great, and yes, it looked like other showings of the uncompressed demo reel. But it's not bad news for you, me or RED... :-)

Graeme
 
We don't talk about the codec.

Graeme
 
Or about the date of releasing this codec ? :-)
 
REDray will be released later this year.

Jim
 
Bing Bailey said:
Jim,

any chances we'll see a mobile version of red rocket for laptop use on set ?

Cheers
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I think we might see quite a lot of REDray for many applications. Give us a bit more time and will post a complete overview.

Jim
 
Thanks Red team! I love that I can always expect better from my camera. Looking forward to both Red Ray and Red Rocket. will Red Ray have hookups for other media sources? wouldn't mind being able to show full 4k footage for clients AND watch my blurays at home. ;)
 
Observations

Observations

The Red Cinema Company has always delivered on their announced plans, if not what they promised in the future, then they always seemed to make it far better than promised!

At “off-NAB 2009” they showed a closer look at the Scarlet and Epic, not necessarily the final product, but they certainly showed that they kept on improving on the product.

On the “Red Rocket”, the only thing I know is that it will do 4K and 5K, how, in what, and when I really don’t know!

On REDray I can’t figure out how they’re going to do it without a picture; is-it from a card, internal or external, Mac/PC, and many more questions, but we’ll stay tune for the next ‘shoe to drop’.

On the RPP we know how much they weight, their cost, it covers a 32mm diagonal, and they will ship the first five lenses. But, it would (or will) be nice to know how they compared against the Arri Master Primes! All the chatter is that they compare favorably.

Those are my observations, I have faith on the Red Cinema Company, keep up the good work, it’s not easy being the leader in any industry.

Humberto Rivera
 
Folks. after last night, the way Digital Cinema will be distributed completely changed for the entire world. Those who think differently will be out in the cold. Redray effectively makes Motion Jpeg2000 for digital content distribution a legacy format. After last night one could honestly consider 4K being displayed in a nice home theater setup with the same quality as a public theater. And true 1080P for internet/wimax? Man oh man the possibilites.
I see Netflix paying Red a call in the near future. (for starters).
 
Bing Bailey said:
Jeff how did the image from the 10mps look , was it as good as the other demo's red has done ?
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I'd love to be able to answer that... I was not there. My sources tell me it looked amazing.
 
Jannard said:
I think we might see quite a lot of REDray for many applications. Give us a bit more time and will post a complete overview.

Jim
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Just a clarification if possible Jim. I notice you answered a question regarding Red Rocket with the above about Red Ray. Should I read from this that Red Rocket outputs Red Ray? That Red Rocket is an R3D-Red Ray convertor?

While that would be very cool, it would not address the needs of the post world who need to see their footage in as pristine condition as possible. I know that any stream out the SDI is uncompressed but I'm curious as to how the conversion from R3D RAW to the SDI stream is handled. Is the stream debayered, downconverted and out the spigot or is it debayered, compressed to Red Ray, uncompressed and out the spigot? As I write this I feel sure that this won't be the case but the Red Ray quote has thrown me - clarification would be nice. Thanks.
 
havent read 28 pages of this thread but...

Can you make it cheaper? :-D

Okay, to be fair this looks like a VERY pro card, quad HD-SDI, which seems to me that it'll be capable of driving 4k projector/monitors, etc. Quite a capable beast and worth every damn cent of $4995.

So, how about another card that only does say, 2k output but will still help me drive my R3Ds fast for like, $1k-$2k?
 
RED has a very bright future

RED has a very bright future

Joe Carney said:
I see Netflix paying Red a call in the near future. (for starters).
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Netflix? Maybe iTunes?? How'd you like to be able to watch a 4k movie that you downloaded from iTunes. Maybe you could throw the REDRAY next to whatever displays you have at home and have it talk to your network and just stream your library.

Joe the Real $ is going to come from the Cable and satellite companies. From a cable companies standpoint they could broadcast their current HD signal at a fraction of the bandwidth at much higher quality. You could have the chips that help push the REDRAY signal in every cable or satellite box. Then again RED could distribute themselves... They do know a few people that make films... Anybody got a spare server??? In the mean time I can't see why every single digital projector on the planet wouldn't be outfitted with a REDRAY. Then when display technology (panel and projection) starts chasing REDs high resolution lead the demand for 3k to manymanyK cameras is going to explode.

The long and the short of it is the future for RED is very very bright.

Until the future comes I'm itching like a junky to start shooting with my fixed lens SCARLET.
 
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