RED Pro Primes vs. my vintage still lenses

[Sanjin Jukic]

Also Sanjin - In the Blue Flower I kept moving the the camera so the frame is approximately the same. The distance from the flower ranged from app. 2' for the 25mm to app. 20' for the 300mm. The comparison posted above would go better with the Purple & Red Flower Bed (http://www.derylgroup.com/downloads/REDONE/LAGUNA/R3Ds/Flowerbed/), where I kept the camera stationary and as a result the frame got progressively closer and closer...

Would be great if we could pick a subject that we both have access to and execute a test in a controlled and (almost) identical conditions (background, lights, etc...). In fact this gives me an idea that I would like to work with You on:

Let's create such a test, so everyone out there with RED ONE can replicate the test with their own glass and we can keep comparing apples with apples. Talking about which:

Light - would have to be Sun of course. That would be the only light source we all share and have a access to. We would need to specify the AAH (related to time and location) and the relative sun position in regards to the subject.

Subject - I suggest a few common fruits and vegetables to cover saturated colors (such as red apple & tomatoes, yellow banana, green pear and bell pepper, orange carrot, etc...), something with neutral color but great texture (like a loaf of euro-style bread) and something with specular highlights (like textured glass full of water, steel cutlery, etc...)

What do You think?

Peter

Hi Peter,

agree about the test.

So when you are able just bring one set of RPPs here in Vienna and I'll try to organize a sort of test that

would maybe include some other cine lenses like Arri/Zeiss Master, Ultra and Compact Primes

or even to ask for Panavision Primo L (spherical) Primes.

Definitely we would need a sponsor for that event.

25, 35, 50, 85

Highlight 1 shot of a day: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 11.05 AM, shot with Leica Summilux R 50mm f/1.4 @ 3.4,
Filters: 55m Hoya NDx8, 55mm Hoya Circ-Pola, 55mm Leica InfraRed-UV filter,
ISO 320, 5600K, Saturation +0.20, Contrast +0.20, R3D processed in RED Alert

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[David Rasberry]

What do you think of the Hoya filters Sanjin?

 

[Peter Majtan]

Hi Peter,

agree about the test.

So when you are able just bring one set of RPPs here in Vienna and I'll try to organize a sort of test that

would maybe include some other cine lenses like Arri/Zeiss Master, Ultra and Compact Primes

or even to ask for Panavision Primo L (spherical) Primes.

Definitely we would need a sponsor for that event.

25, 35, 50, 85

You are missing the main point of my suggestion - the whole point about setting a standardized conditions and subjects we all have a access to - is that we can all conduct the tests locally in our respective places and share here on the forum...

Peter

 

[Antoine Fabi]

I's imposiible to compare one lense to another in different location/subject/time/settings/lighting.

All we can say is that both lenses can produce good images.

Antoine

 

[Mitch Gross]

I's imposiible to compare one lense to another in different location/subject/time/settings/lighting.

All we can say is that both lenses can produce good images.

Antoine

That is not true as long as one has strict control over these aspects. Indoor under controlled lighting. Camera distance to subject maintained, lighting positions and settings noted, camera settings matched, etc. Scientific experimentation and laboratory measurement demands repeatability.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

You are missing the main point of my suggestion - the whole point about setting a standardized conditions and subjects

we all have a access to - is that we can all conduct the tests locally in our respective places and share here on the forum...

Peter

Peter,

I didn't miss your main point at all... but in a general, as we all know well, the only appropriate test of any lens set are how many of feature films, documentaries, short films

and commercials were shot with that and only that can "judge" about anything we are all talking about here, forget all those lab tests, projectors, mtf measurements, etc,...

Anyway let's see how will overall industry respond to RPPs...!!?

Highlight 2 shot of a day: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 17.35 PM, shot with Leica Summilux R 50mm f/1.4 @ 2.8,
Filters: No ND filters, 55mm Hoya Circ-Pola, 55mm Leica InfraRed-UV filter,
ISO 320, 5600K, Saturation +0.20, Contrast +0.20, R3D processed in RED Alert

 

[Antoine Fabi]

That is not true as long as one has strict control over these aspects. Indoor under controlled lighting. Camera distance to subject maintained, lighting positions and settings noted, camera settings matched, etc. Scientific experimentation and laboratory measurement demands repeatability.

In theory yes, in practice...good luck.

Antoine