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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

RED One "Video Village"

Any Updates on Blair's Video Village?

Any Updates on Blair's Video Village?

Blair S. Paulsen said:
Throughout the dev on this system I have tried to design bulletproof on-set solutions that take into account current infrastructure while embracing the new paradigm that the RED system enables. Just like the camera my version of "video village" continues to evolve.
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What have you decided to include at this time?

Is there anyplace to rent Wireless HDMI gear?

Still Searching,

Rosco
 
Nick Shaw said:
None of of us know what the spec for the 4k displays will be, outside red of course, and even for them it's a work in progress. Maybe it will have an input which connects direct to the camera's high speed port. That would be very cool.
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forget the highspeed port - firewire or even a single BNC is all you would need for 4K REDCODE, assuming you decode in the monitor -
 
offhollywood said:
forget the highspeed port - firewire or even a single BNC is all you would need for 4K REDCODE, assuming you decode in the monitor -
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That's assuming there is no (or negligible) latency from the REDCODE compress/decompress cycle. Don't want it to be like using Firewire to monitor a DV camera.
 
Sure hope you're right

Sure hope you're right

Hmmm. Are you thinking that in addition to the eSATA tap that goes to the RedDrive there is another active data output port sending out RedCode RAW? Can we "split" the eSATA feed? If you are using CF then the eSATA tap is open for business? Very interesting :greedy:

For the sake of this discussion, let's imagine that a soon to be released Mac tower has enough processing power (probably via the GPU) to de-Bayer the RedCode RAW (in real time or at least with only a frame or two of delay) and a monitoring pipeline capable of 3840 by 2160 resolution. Perhaps it will be possible to monitor (at nearly) 4K, albeit with a somewhat truncated color space and other limitations typical of LCD based monitors designed for computer use.

This would rock if it can actually be done.
 
The eSATA drive port is reportedly disabled when using onboard [i.e. CF] storage. You could have a CF module installed and a RED DRIVE plugged in, but you would have to choose only one to record to.
 
Just wondering...

Just wondering...

How about the eSATA tap to a Mac tower with RAID and GPU/monitor that can do near 4k (3840 by 2160 is the likely res)? The RAID acts like a big RedDrive for the RedCode RAW data. The CPU or 2nd GPU de-bayers for monitoring with some, yet to be determined latency?

If not now, maybe someday...
 
Blair S. Paulsen said:
How about the eSATA tap to a Mac tower with RAID and GPU/monitor that can do near 4k (3840 by 2160 is the likely res)? The RAID acts like a big RedDrive for the RedCode RAW data. The CPU or 2nd GPU de-bayers for monitoring with some, yet to be determined latency?

If not now, maybe someday...
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I'm drooling all over my keyboard already....

After seeing what the RED team has achieved thus far, I'm starting to believe anything is possible.

Would the 8 core 32Gig Ram Mac Pro be able to handle that with X-raid server??
 
Calling Steve Jobs...

Calling Steve Jobs...

Anan Wasintan said:
I'm drooling all over my keyboard already....

After seeing what the RED team has achieved thus far, I'm starting to believe anything is possible.

Would the 8 core 32Gig Ram Mac Pro be able to handle that with X-raid server??
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Well its not the Red Team as much as Apple that would have to make the config I postulated possible, particularly in terms of monitoring beyond 1080P. I wonder if the current 30" Apple Cinema Display could actually give us 2560 x 1600 pixels of image, scaled on the fly from 4K or pixel for pixel at 2K (2048 by 1536 AFAIK)??? Seems a little optimistic.

Frankly, in the near term, I don't expect current hardware and, due respect to Graeme, the current software code builds to support anything beyond just writing RedCode RAW to the RAID and then playing it back in 2K shortly after the take or with a delay of several seconds at best.

What's the point? I am merely looking at the trajectory of computer tech, specifically from Apple, and thinking that sometime in 2008 we just might have new generation Mac towers that could pull off 4K monitoring from the RedCode RAW data stream with only a few frames of latency. Issues that will need to be dealt with include:

RedCode will get better, from what we've been told it is already much improved and there is still plenty of efficiency to be had.

OSX Leopard, combined with 10.5 SDKs will allow developers to take greater advantage of 64 bit architecture and better utilize the multi-core CPUs.

Better GPUs working in parallel and/or assigned to separate tasks will be able to support more real time processes for folks like us.

New monitor tech, hopefully using a fatter pipe, the better GPUs and offering resolution independence will make 4K (or at least quad-HD 3840 by 2160) displays possible on desktop systems.

Hope you all enjoyed sharing my daydream...
 
Blair S. Paulsen said:
Well its not the Red Team as much as Apple that would have to make the config I postulated possible, particularly in terms of monitoring beyond 1080P...

RedCode will get better, from what we've been told it is already much improved and there is still plenty of efficiency to be had.

OSX Leopard, combined with 10.5 SDKs will allow developers to take greater advantage of 64 bit architecture and better utilize the multi-core CPUs.

Better GPUs working in parallel and/or assigned to separate tasks will be able to support more real time processes for folks like us.

New monitor tech, hopefully using a fatter pipe, the better GPUs and offering resolution independence will make 4K (or at least quad-HD 3840 by 2160) displays possible on desktop systems.

Hope you all enjoyed sharing my daydream...
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There was talk after NAB about Apple's missing 64 bit app that was supposed to show up, but is now waiting for Leopard I assume.

Maybe your dreams are closer than you think! ;) ;)

Rosco
 
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This information applies to a current discussion

I thought this might help some who are discussing the outputs available for monitoring and recording off the Red Head.

Rosco
 
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