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RED future...

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Mickjoebill said:
Additions to RED one as well as new RED hardware.

1/ Remote head RED with fiber link to body. Cage system for lens and camera to allow easy rigging of front heavy camera and lens.

2/ Mini RED with CF that records uncompressed (to keep camera mass down?) for use in stunts. Industrial cams incorporate a G meter to activate recording. Only needs to record min 60 seconds uncompressed.


3/ Baby RED with 35mm size sensor in EX1 form factor with integrated 5x zoom, power zoom, manual focus.
Could do away with some features (HDSDI outputs) to keep it small.

4/ 14 to 17 inch monitor 1920x1080 pixels. Include 3D viewing option.

5/ RED one simultaneous recording via two CF card slots.

6/ RED one Simultaneous recording using CF and SATA.

7/ RED one File exchange between CF and SATA

8/ RED one User variable scaling frame rate, let us decide what res is and isn't acceptable at particular frame rates.

9/ CAC chromatic aberration compensation when using 2/3 inch lenses

10/ RED one vertical filter slot in front of sensor, for ND or CC filter. May be possible to squeeze 2 ND and clear on one 2 x 4 inch slide. This could also be the IR filter.
and/or some other way of reducing sensitivity.

11/ Factory controlled calibrated test 4k frame/s in camera to aid monitor set-up and QA trouble shooting.

12/ Video village Fiber link with HDMI HDSDI audio time code ect in/out. Breakout box for same.

13/ RED player, a la Panasonic P2 player but with push button activation of user installable LUTs. High quality screen with 1:1 Basic VTR controls. NO erase function!

14/ RED TV portable recorder
Compact CF recorder with with HDSDI input and conversion to RED codec.
10 bit recording of 4:2:2 or 4:4:4
Allows recording of any HDSDI signal. ie use of HDSDI output from EX1, Z7 F900R or 60p output from HDC 1500 F23 or Genesis or 4:4:4 too.
A replacement for the SRW1 (for short form work at least)
Easy integration into RED workflow, easy for producers to understand.
or licence RED codec to the guys already building a CF recorder that has XDCAM HD codec.


15/ RED TV compact camcorder. A 3K 16mm size single sensor sampled to 1920 x1080. 16x lens.
EX1 or better form factor with RED2k /HDSDI recording.

16/ Option slot.
ie for a GPS tracker. These assemblies are down to $100 and now have integration to Google maps. Size of a pack of gum. They could automatically download their file to CF before ejection of the CF or at the end of the clip. Current trackers use USB.


17/ GPS read and search integrated into edit software. No one is doing this.

18/ Rate sensors built into camera for roll, az and el recorded as meta data that also can be read by edit or sfx software to stabilise hand held and other uses.


19/ RED one Mechanical contact to enable integration with numerous remote systems.


20/ Remote menue operation that is expandable to operate or control user configurable accessory ports.


21/ 8K sensor for Imax.


22/ Self resetting fuse to protect against reverse polarity or spikes.
Over current protection for accessory DC outputs if it doesn't already have it?


23/ The menue display and operation at the rear of the camera is a novel position with a battery behind it. Duplicate it on left or right hand side.

Familiar ideas list.. just gets longer!

Mike Brennan
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Mike... you have just described our $350,000 model that is in development! :-)

Jim
 
And I was about to make a Red One purchase too. I suppose I'll still get it and farm it out to get money for the $350,000 one...

...dreams
:sarcasm:
 
My grandfather just said "pull my finger"
 
Red would be smart to develop exceptionally high quality in-camera scaling, and do it quickly. For many people in-camera scaling is the holy grail. We appreciate the 35mm aesthetic (24fps, depth of field, field of view, focus behavior (no floating focus pulls), the shapes of out of focus sources. These have become the visual language of cinema in both conscious and subconscious ways. We continue to effort to achieve it digitally with the advent of 24p cameras, need I mention the pro 35 adapter' raging success. As a Director of photography/equipment owner, I want to offer all options to producers, but the thing I hate to give up is these 35mm aesthetic choices.

For many of us, producers dictate the acquisition format based on editorial criteria... which deck the editor owned factored into which video camera we would shoot with. In the future, server space may indeed impact the resolution we choose for acquisition.

For some projects 2k will be plenty. Today, most digital inter-negatives are scanned at 2k then printed back to film for distribution and it looks really good.

I’m all for 4k but other realities may dictate our choices from time to time. So when the producer wants 2k, I still want to shoot with 35mm lenses. Bring on in camera scaling… Please
 
ibloom said:
Everything that Brook mentioned in his post, is exactly what I want from the camera.

IBloom
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I totally agree. Just about every point Brook made is something I have either experienced first hand or discussed with other RED owners. Right now the camera is pretty good. That list is all that stands in the way of this camera being truly world class.

I love this thread. It's so much fun to read and to dream of all the possibilities... but in all honesty, the only thing I hope RED is working on right now is perfecting what they've got.

I want to believe Jim started this thread just to make sure there were no more loose ends. This 1-100 recall is perhaps the last chance for them to make serious hardware adjustments. Once these cameras start flooding the market a recall will no longer be an option.

I just hope the future Red owners can give them all the patience and support they need to get this thing absolutely perfect.

99
 
I hate to follow the pack, but everything Brook said should REALLY be taken to heart before proceeding with the new batch. As much as I want my camera now, I want all of these issues addressed first.

Please, someone at RED, respond to his post before shipping more cameras.
 
What did Brook say? Just so I don't have to scour the forum...

And do you have a camera on order?

Jim
 
In other words, I think that you are a victim of you own price point.
 
After finding Brook's post and reading it:

Some are already done.
Some are almost done
Some are in development
Some are on our list
Some are too expensive to do and stay at $17,500
A few will not be done.

Hope that helps...

Jim
 
Jim, please be more vague in your response...

;-)
 
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