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RED Dragon vs. 65mm film...

Your lens works with Dragon. The question is how much of Dragon can your lens handle.

Gunleik, I do. The RED gang with eyes wide open looking at the chart, Cioni's confirmation. The firetruck followed shortly after.

But I bet I will remember all my life where I was standing tonight when I heard it was official.

RED has made the first sensor that beats film in every possible measurable way.
 
Rentals should start investing in Leica summilux-c lenses. EPIC Dragon will be the most sophisticated camera.
 
Every lens works with Dragon. You just might have to select a slightly smaller resolution if you have a small image circle lens.

Jim

does it mean 6K will be 35mm full frame, like we have w/ the d800 or 5d mark 3? that would be awesome!

6K = 35mm full frame
5K = APS-H
4K = super 35mm
 
Jim

Do you see physical upgrade process on EPIC as easy or difficult? Can we assume more than just a sensor swap is at hand?
 
Jarred has allready confirmed that some ASICS has to be swapped.

I still think we'll see two "dragons" the upgraded 16:9 dragon and a new superdragon with 4:3 sensor.

None will be stills FF... If they don't make the superdragon an 8k just for the kicks of it...
 
16 stops!

Can the Scarlets have the throwaways? You know the ones with 13.5 stops.
 
Hi,
This is big..so when is the big day...our M is ready to go under the knife.....

Thanks again.

Harcharan
 
Money --> mouth. Pictures, please.
 
Jim I already compare to 65mm and IMax...now what will I compare to? ;)
My EPIC has been flagged for upgrade and I am standing by and ready...whats the new target release?
 
Time for Deanan to fire up Photoshop for an update to this post on comparing the Epic to an Alexa:

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Jim. Can you clarify further about Dragon vs 65mm. As much as the resolution, but i believe FOV will be the one that makes the difference. Does the FOV same between Dragon and 65mm ?

Thanks
Rivai
 
I'll really believe the Dragon sensor can match the look of 65mm film when filmmakers like Chris Nolan, J.J. Abrams, and Paul Thomas Anderson use it. One great thing I can say about the Epic: as mechanically noisy as it is, it's not nearly as noisy as a fully-loaded 65mm film camera, which sounds like a pile-driver by comparison. All these filmmakers have admitted they couldn't use 65mm for intimate dialogue scenes in interiors, because the cameras were so noisy. That's not a problem that can be easily solved.
 
OK. This is the final frontier.

The RED Dragon sensor needs to be directly compared to 65mm film.

The Dragon has more resolution than 65mm film when scanned at 4K.

The Dragon has more dynamic range than film... by a lot. 65mm film has about 14.5 stops. The Dragon has an easy 16 stops... without sweating.

The EPIC Dragon will shoot nearly 100fps. 65mm film cameras... not so much.

Cost to shoot the RED Dragon vs. 65mm film... ridiculously not close.

Dragon should never be compared to 35mm film. It should only be spoken in reference to 65mm film from here on out.

So you own an EPIC? You upgrade.

Have a nice day....

Jim

What is the measurable resolution of Dragon is like? over 5k when shooting 6k i guess?????????
 
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