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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Real camera tests...

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There is so much misperception out there... this would be a great opportunity to see what each camera can do.

Really.

Jim
 
For the companies that wish to sign up... please email tash at red dot com.

Jim
 
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I bet there will be no challengers to take this offer Jim.....:lol:
Harcharan
 
Bold idea Jim !

( Reminds me of illegal street drag racing, for some reason ... ;)

When it comes to methodology, I would erase the old 'It had better glass on it' excuse by having known great lens's ( PL and Canon) to be shared on the various cameras. You want to erase these excuses from the start.
The test will need to have elements to satisfy the 'organic' camp, that is the ones who dislike charts, as well as a chart/science aspect for the tech savy decision makers.

I'd love to help out on this as well!
 
why do you think? cause they'll be afraid to publicly release the results...

what are arri & sony gonna say? well, our cameras cost more... and we've been controlling the film and broadcast industry forever... our cameras are bigger... we can record to built-in lossy codecs... and on it goes.
 
A free lunch? I volunteer to show up with my Epic! ;)

But seriously, some cams/companies may not want to show up because this test will highlight their inadequacies much more than the Zacuto 1080p test...
 
You answered your own question Jim....because
"It is the only really fair test."
Harcharan
 
Jannard said:
Why? It is the only really fair test.

Jim
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I believe other companies will be too afraid to accept the challange:p Same reason why they've been afraid to risk the leap forward to 4k all these years untill now:)
 
Why would we bring our inferior cameras to RED studios? We are constantly told that our images are worthless so what's the point?
 
Why not see one way or the other?

Why not see what is real and what is not? What you are told means nothing. The proof is in the testing... assuming each company has complete control of their images.

Jim

Ash Worth said:
Why would we bring our inferior cameras to RED studios? We are constantly told that our images are worthless so what's the point?
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Jean Déraps said:
A free lunch? I volunteer to show up with my Epic! ;)

But seriously, some cams/companies may not want to show up because this test will highlight their inadequacies much more than the Zacuto 1080p test...
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In all seriousness If they don't show up I doubt that would be the reason, If you were in charge of say... Ford and Ferrari invited every other car company down for a race around their test track and a series of tests would the first thing that popped into your mind be "Oh that'll be more fair then sending a car to say Auto car magazine doing a similar test at silverstone."
 
It'd be great if each company made a serious BTS of what they did in post. If they decide to do a puff piece and not speak to professionals that would say a lot.
 
I wonder if there will be a new accusation of "bias scrutiny", that of designing the shooting environment itself to be in Red's favor? High dynamic range to show off HDR, bad lighting/color temperature or underexposure to show off RAW acquisition etc.

What is the best way to ensure a level playing field for the test itself?

Still, guess these are important issues and that fact that Red can overcome them shouldn't be seen as bias.

One of the things that pissed me off about the original Zacuto test that was praising the 5D MII was none of the shooting environments had complex imagery (moire) or movement (rolling shutter.)
 
I just had a rental house volunteer to provide every camera for the test. Now all we need is the camera companies to attend.

Encourage them....

Jim
 
Sorry noob question.....Can i just go to the cinema and see for my self knowing what it was shot on + resolution projected ?
 
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