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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Questions..?

This is me thinking out loud here...but what about claymation at 5k or 6k...they would surely benefit from having a still frame...just one of many ideas.
 
If the still option is not manageable, another option could be a clip with intervals of 1 frame per X seconds or minutes.
 
Patrick Grossien said:
I'd like a mode where you start a clip and with each press of a button a new frame is added to that clip. perfect for stop motion and stills mode.

this doesn't sound too complicated, but what do I know!
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Hey Patrick,

I second that idea! That would be a perfect solution.
 
Jarred,

Thanks for all the quick replies. So, if RED is rethinking the "Stills" mode (understandable) does that have any impact on the time-lapse functions? And the million dollar question . . . will enhanced time-lapse functions be part of the next update in a few weeks? Would be helpful to know to make plans. Thanks very much Jarred from the guys back home.

David
 
Jarred Land said:
The stills mode concept has changed. It seemed like a good idea way back when, but in practice, almost all of the still photographers just shoot motion and pull stills from the feed... it is just a way better way to do it. For sharper frames, people use HDRX in a different way, they use the HDRX track that has a narrow shutter for pulling sharp stills.. and then use the normal track for video with motion blur.
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Desired shutter has always been the deterring factor in my adopting of the shoot-stills-and-motion together approach. More often then not, I'd want vastly different shutter angles for stills vs motion. I always thought one would just have to be compromised. Never thought about using HDRx this way. Too cool. Thanks for sharing.

So when you say the stills mode concept has changed, do you mean you dont plan on doing much more to the stills workflow then the method people are already using now, or is there still something coming down the pipeline that is a revised stills mode concept?

*edit* as I just read the last two pages of the thread I see others haved chimed in with the request to bring a single shot mode as was planned. +1 on that front
 
Barry Bishop said:
This is me thinking out loud here...but what about claymation at 5k or 6k...they would surely benefit from having a still frame...just one of many ideas.
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exactly, barry. That's what we're referring to. I think some kind of single frame mode is really essential! even if its the 1 frame per X sec/min idea or a clip which "sleeps" during recording until the next frame gets triggered. I don't need stills coming out, but controllable single shots are really essential to some.
 
on the Meizler Module, will it play with a variety of wireless FF motors, controllers, timecode and audio transmitters, video receivers etc? Or, is this limited to a specific brand(s) of transmitter/receiver/motors?

Will 3rd party products connecting to the MModule need to get RED-approved?
 
Jarred Land said:
The stills mode concept has changed. It seemed like a good idea way back when, but in practice, almost all of the still photographers just shoot motion and pull stills from the feed... it is just a way better way to do it. For sharper frames, people use HDRX in a different way, they use the HDRX track that has a narrow shutter for pulling sharp stills.. and then use the normal track for video with motion blur.
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that may be true for studio shooting... that's not how i shoot photography. sometimes, i seriously just need 1 frame. that's it. maybe i'm taking a texture reference... the wall isn't moving anyways. maybe i'm taking a picture of a mountain... it's not changing anytime soon. sometimes, it just comes down to the feel of carefully composing and pressing a shutter button to capture the frame, and knowing you got 'it'. it's silly to turn the record on and off as fast as you can to get something that's not going anywhere, cramps the style. there's a lot more to photography than sports, wildlife, and portraiture. really doesn't always make sense to record motion . DSMC. options... right? :)

Patrick Grossien said:
stop motion is definitely needed!!
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i agree... often this is done using external hardware... but it would be nice to have the most basic functionality for people that don't have that, or don't even know about it. simplicity = creativity.
 
Silvana Grob said:
Patrick
Golem.de or Slashcam for example
http://www.golem.de/news/red-kinokamera-fuer-filme-mit-6-000-x-4-000-pixeln-1204-91199.html
http://www.slashcam.de/news/single/RED-noch-2012-mit-6K-Dragon-Sensor-Upgrade-fuer-EPI-9821.html

and there are some rumors on the german FCP-Forum as well
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Thanks Silvana!
These can't be right because these specs refer to the FF35 monstro sensor. Jim (or Jarred) mentioned that the Dragon is not one of the monstros.
This one is a S35 sensor with higher specs.


Jannard said:
The Dragon sensor is slightly larger than the Mysterium-X sensor and the pixel size is slightly smaller. The pixel design and sensor design makes all the difference in the world.
Most all of your current lenses will work.

Jim
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Jannard said:
Sensor size is 30x15.8mm. Pixel size is 5 micron.

Jim
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Jarred Land said:
Still in the pipe.. but focused on DRAGON right now.

The Rocket is a PC card you put in your Mac or PC and it accelerates the playback and conversion of your 4k/5K RED footage.. so you can play back footage in real time and transcode in realtime.

The stills mode concept has changed. It seemed like a good idea way back when, but in practice, almost all of the still photographers just shoot motion and pull stills from the feed... it is just a way better way to do it. For sharper frames, people use HDRX in a different way, they use the HDRX track that has a narrow shutter for pulling sharp stills.. and then use the normal track for video with motion blur.
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In what way has the stills mode concept changed?
 
Jarred Land said:
Yes. In 2 weeks we are releasing a pretty monumental build for Scarlet and Epic... Apart from a bunch of other goodies, additional resolutions will appear... including the high frame rate 1K on scarlet.
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This to me is your NAB gift! Thanks! really looking forward to it!!!
 
Scott Crawley said:
Does it (Edit: the wireless transmitter) broadcast metadata too? Lens info? Start stop flags to trigger devices like the Pix recorders? With File names? Timecode? Clean feed only or can you select overlays?

Is this also to be part of the Redmote Pro?
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Can transmit overlays or clean. And is one of the pieces of REDMOTE PRO... infact we even send touchscreen commands back and forth through it... i'm sure you can figure out what that means :)

It is HDMI based... so no timecode yet. yet.
 
Andrae Palmer said:
In what way has the stills mode concept changed?
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the little switch on the front of the handle that goes from motion to stills. That switch will likely just be a change between two different presets.
 
Jarred Land said:
Can transmit overlays or clean. And is one of the pieces of REDMOTE PRO... infact we even send touchscreen commands back and forth through it... i'm sure you can figure out what that means :)

It is HDMI based... so no timecode yet. yet.
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Nice!!! And thanks!
 
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