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PRO IO MINI - VERSION 2 - WHO WANTS ONE !!!!

Mark Toia

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Jim and Jarred are probably fueling the jet to come and punch me in the face for causing such a stir on this subject.... But I'll take the hits for chance of this thing being made.

After having a good long hard think about my personal requirements and reading the hundreds of threads on the last PRO IO MINI thread I started... I think its best not to try jam pack it with every single option, as that is what the MEIZLER MODULE is designed to do.
This little baby is only for the thousands of us that want to keep the cameras small and powerful. With this module comes full size Audio inputs / extra EVF and 4k/2k proxies files simultaneous with R3D's...

Let the big movie guys get the big rigs with all the bells and whistles I say, and the power to them. We applaud RED for making things like the MEIZLER MODULE available to them.... but now its time for the little guys, the 80% of us who want to keep things small and functional. This is why we all bought into RED EPIC (including the amazing image quality of course)
PRO RES for instant editing is what saved ARRI... If it was just a RAW camera it would be as dead as the D21 is a long time ago... we all know this. So to have a small and PRORES (or DNXHD) in a tiny module (as well as proper audio inputs) - that would be the last thing to we (i) will need to say out loud. "PERFECT"
Actually the RED PLAYBACK IS WAHT MADE THE CAMERA PERFECT FOR ME.... this will top it off.

I know I know this could be a ridiculous request for RED... but when I see sound pix and Samurais sort of doing it... and knowing that RED are the kings of shrinking horse power into little boxes... I totally think RED can do this.

Thank you again Jim and Jarred in advance.

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I'm in
 
+1

(I think RED has to earn money for the technology developped before investing in other modules (like Epic -> Scarlet). I'm sure it will come and the Alexa argument you cited Mark is absolutly right. But it will take time... (Hope not much)).


Pat
 
+100000000000

If they merge the small proxy recorder and the +1 module adapter we could be in business. All depends on what the 3rd party they are working with on the module thinks they can accomplish since it's most likely their tech and R&D that RED is piggybacking on to get the module and certification for the Meizler pushed thru.

just a guess.
 
It sure is a very nice Mini Module Mark, but it is way too small to have all there, it needs to be double its thickness, unless of course RED can pull miracles.. ;)

They put a 120 fps 5k camera with hundreds of modes and functions in the same dimensions as a soup can.... I think they can build this. :)

+100000000000

If they merge the small proxy recorder and the +1 module adapter we could be in business. All depends on what the 3rd party they are working with on the module thinks they can accomplish since it's most likely their tech and R&D that RED is piggybacking on to get the module and certification for the Meizler pushed thru.

just a guess.

Probably correct..
 
All I need ! But (like I said in Mark's previous post) make this one with the possibility of being powered by the side handle and the redvolts. It will probably reduce running time to about 10 to 15 minutes, but For what I do, small form factor and lightweight is key!
 
They put a 120 fps 5k camera with hundreds of modes and functions in the same dimensions as a soup can.... I think they can build this. :)


He he, different technology from Box to Box Mark, look at the actual size of al other Modules and what they offer, then try and combine the Electronics and ports of each of them and there is just no way to crack them al in such a small unit... However if RED does pull out such a miracle then of course I'm GAME... + 1... ;)
 
To me 4k proxies are a bit over due... on set you do not have space for big screens. And most of us does not do offline editing with 4k screening. HD is good enough for editing. In fact when doing complex (read multi layer) editing even working in HD is providing to much render times. So I think a good choice would be HD proxies. I think DNx is the way to go. Proress is not as sutable, why? it's simple, DNx is a free to download codec, works in FCP and AVID, While on the other hand Proress is not playing well with avid... So if there was a choice I would say DNx.

Also I would rather use the normal sized mags. why, Because soon our black redmags will be outdated by the faster red mags, then this would be a good use. And it would be nice to kind of get a full shooting day with Dnx files on one card, not having to think of swapping and offload also the proxy cards.

Agree that todays module adapter feels a bit big for doing nothing. But I doubt they can sqeeze all your requests in there. I personally do not think it's a huge issue with the camera getting big in size as long as it can shoot full quality images with just the body Im fine to hook on stuff when needed. We shoot with the alexa studio and codec recorder last weekend... in comparison the epic with all modules available still feels like a little handy cam :)

I like the idea of a proxy module but Im more eager of a wireless HD module. Even though the meisler module is truly amazing. I find it odd that it kind of ends the camera with a battery, not allowing for other modules.
 
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Also I would rather use the normal sized mags. why, Because soon our black redmags will be outdated by the faster red mags, then this would be a good use. And it would be nice to kind of get a full shooting day with Dnx files on one card, not having to think of swapping and offload also the proxy cards.


Remember CF card have replaced by SD and not the contrary. I wonder wich one will be the future?

Pat
 
He he, different technology from Box to Box Mark, look at the actual size of al other Modules and what they offer, then try and combine the Electronics and ports of each of them and there is just no way to crack them al in such a small unit... However if RED does pull out such a miracle then of course I'm GAME... + 1... ;)

Sound pix does it all... and is small... and has a screen.
Ki-pro does it all... and is small...
The tech is there already Ketch. Audio ports are not an issue. the board for the extra evf is not big....
I swear, if RED can make a camera so powerful and that small... SOUNDPIX and KIPRO make there audio/vision capture boxes small... Then so can RED.
 
KiPro and Sound Devices are 3/4 the size of the Epic!

Sound pix does it all... and is small... and has a screen.
Ki-pro does it all... and is small...
The tech is there already Ketch. Audio ports are not an issue. the board for the extra evf is not big....
I swear, if RED can make a camera so powerful and that small... SOUNDPIX and KIPRO make there audio/vision capture boxes small... Then so can RED.
 
This is a pretty damn awesome module - though I guess worst case I'd happily take just a proxy and a +1 mod but if this is possible, then heck yah!

I guess considering the amount of pushing your doing on this Mark they should name it the Toia module for sure :P
 
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