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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Post B16 comments here...

is it a bad idea to set up a new section to make a comparision on all

Working features with no bugs and not yet 100% stable features with a little small bug between the Releasesd B15 v2.25 and Beta test verion B16 v3.1.2 ?

Anyone like to do it in States or EU or me in ASIA ?

Stew.
 
version 16 doesn't playback timelapse

version 16 doesn't playback timelapse

Hi.
We recorded some timelapse shots 4K 2:1 each 8 seconds 1 frame, shutter 1/50
It's not possible to play it back on camera or to open the file in Red Alert.
Is this a known problem?

Ed
 
Hi.
We recorded some timelapse shots 4K 2:1 each 8 seconds 1 frame, shutter 1/50
It's not possible to play it back on camera or to open the file in Red Alert.
Is this a known problem?

Ed

I have had no problem with Timelapse in 23.98 4K 2:1 project only went to 1/6th shutter and they played back in camera OK.

I think you should be sure to check that you are interval recording instead of ONE-SHOT this might be your problem...


David
 
Off topic:

You cant do shutter speed bracketing with moving pictures for HDR results. Anything moving fast will have too much motion blur. Think of the difference between three consecutive frames. Maybe you could write a code that would leave each pixel open for the full shutter speed and pull frames out at the fast and middle exposures. MAYBE. I have another way but it requires alot of light and a few other tech hitches.

On topic:

RedSpace. Think of it just like you were before. You were looking at the Rec709 space and had learned to envision what you were going to have to play with in post. RedSpace gives you and even better interpretation of that. You are not delivering in RAW format you will choose some color space to deliver in. This is a nice pre visualization for that final deliverable.

RAW is great and some thing you should check and look at. One great thing is that the operator can see RAW while still pumping a meta-data laden image out to the client. Frick'n genious. Now just make the time code, shot name and rec tally always an option for my client out put and I am happy.

Off topic again:

Also don't just look for answers inside the camera. For instance: Need a little more head room? Not alot of contrast? Shoot 500asa then. It will drop your midpoint down and give you more space for "bright" pixels. Compensate for it with some NDs and you are set. Just be spot on with exposure so you are not bringing anything up and seeing any extra noise.

Okay I'll stop.
 
REDsapce

REDsapce

The RAW view is valuable when you really want to push the camera to its limits. But, the cost is the amount of efforts one has to invest later on in post in grading. REDspace is a trade-off which gives one almost the best quality, forgives some exposure mistakes, and which decreases the amount of work needed in post.

Could you please confirm this is a proper interpretation.

You got it!
 
Audio

Audio

Does Build 16 fix audio problems people have been having? Is it now possible to use the camera's phantom power instead of going line in?
 
LOL - Stew, you're using one of my photoshopped pics as your avatar. Hehe
 
LOL - Stew, you're using one of my photoshopped pics as your avatar. Hehe

I can resist to your great EDUCATION to those NEW RED Shooters.

If you don't like it I change, and YES I am using your PICS but I pay >
How much ?

Cheers,

Stew.
 
It's cool.. I just thought it was funny. :)
 
I just finished shooting a Film in Panama as DIT, the Dop was Mauricio Vidal(Colombia), the director and Producer Abner Benaim (Panama) the producer Matthias Ehrenberg (Mexico). I was hopping that we where able to shoot it with this build, since was expected for the NAB I am glad to hear it has finally come out and looking for seeing the changes. I might be doing another movie in less than a month so I hope you guys get it stable before that time arrives, but until next week I am not going to be able of testing it, so ...
I have one question about the famous redspace. is a new work with codification but is it changing the color space?, does it have any advantages with the REDlog or better said disadvantages? is it good for working teathrical pourposes or like 709 is a waste of info?.
Sorry but my wrighting is horrible and i am in a hurry I hope you understood the idea and waiting for your clarification
 
Audio Quality.

Audio Quality.

Does Build 16 fix audio problems people have been having? Is it now possible to use the camera's phantom power instead of going line in?

Yes, it improves the audio, but no change to phantom power status.
 
We recorded some timelapse shots 4K 2:1 each 8 seconds 1 frame, shutter 1/50 It's not possible to play it back on camera or to open the file in Red Alert. Is this a known problem?

Ed

25 fps Project Time Base, Interval 8 sec Speed 1/50 Repeat 1 frame Burst Repeat ?
 
I used SD card to upgrade to b15 v2.2.8 (the intermediate build required before loading b16), and then I upgraded to b16. Used a 512MB SD card - I think the one that came with the camera. Make sure the card is clean, then copy the Upgrade folder from b15 2.2.8, install in camera, await the upgrade prompt, install. Then remove the card, plug back into your card reader on your Mac/PC, delete the Upgrade folder. Then place the b16 Upgrade folder onto it, install in camera, await the upgrade prompt and install.
 
Off topic:

You cant do shutter speed bracketing with moving pictures for HDR results. Anything moving fast will have too much motion blur. Think of the difference between three consecutive frames. Maybe you could write a code that would leave each pixel open for the full shutter speed and pull frames out at the fast and middle exposures. MAYBE. I have another way but it requires alot of light and a few other tech hitches.

Frzendreams, we already did try 2K at 60fps with two cameras and then we merged it in to 30fps HDR.

HDR works great this way, if not that parallax problem from 3D effect from two cameras.


Yes I agree, having RAW and metadata processed output at the same time is 'genious':-)

This camera can do everything now, more I play with it more I like it.
 
Yes, it improves the audio, but no change to phantom power status.

Stuart, is this something that will have a solution or do you think it just comes down to a hardware limitation?

I only ask because if it's something that can't be fixed, I need to come up with a solution for those times I want to use phantom powered mics in a run and gun situation. I'll probably just rig a SD MM1 or a SD Mixpre to the camera and only use line input on Red. Obviously in times when we have adequate sound budget we will have double system sound, with Red most likely just acting as a reference track. But phantom power issues is a big one in run and gun (doc, nature, sports, etc)
 
Frzendreams, we already did try 2K at 60fps with two cameras and then we merged it in to 30fps HDR.

HDR works great this way, if not that parallax problem from 3D effect from two cameras.


Yes I agree, having RAW and metadata processed output at the same time is 'genious':-)

This camera can do everything now, more I play with it more I like it.

Hey Andrew, do you have any time to post some low-res results. Did you place cameras side by side, or use a splitter? I'm very interested in this. Thanks.
 
Breaking up images on lower part of LCD

Breaking up images on lower part of LCD

I do notice some weird color flickering in the viewfinder occasionally, especially when moving forward and back from it. Probably something that has been discussed and I missed it in the past.

Playing around with LCD and Viewfinder settings on B16. Then made some quick pan and notice images in the lower part of LCD breaking up and not catching up with the rest of the images on the top. Rebooting clear the problem. It this a B15 issue too. Read in a posting that B15 is more of a flickering issue.
 
I did notice this on the LCD when I first started playing with Build 16 but then it cleared up and hasn't shown up since.

The EVF is a bit harder to describe. It's almost like I notice thin rainbow patterns depending whether my eye is right in the cup or pulled away slightly. Otherwise, it's really great. Very sharp.
 
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