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Optimus Prime

after rethinking over the day and knowing now that their t2.8 is a workable t2.8
they seem ok for that price.
ryan how do you work with them at night? adding more light seems to be against the idea of being for indiefilmakers.
i mean what about mx at 800 asa and t2.8 and almost available light (maybe a kinoflow or litepanel at best? how does it look.
do you have tested it? maybe post some stills?

right now the cooke cxx seems to be a better deal with a price of of 40k,
there you get t2, maybe add a 65 or 85 mm s4/panchro on it.

the cooke cxx is totally underrated here, no one uses it (besides. me when renting)
people prefer angenieux zooms.
 
concerned about that as well, I did a test the other night using my RPZ 17-50 at 2.9 shooting at 1600 and processing out as RedLogFilm with the noise reduction cranked up a little.... I was pretty happy with the results and feeling better about the Panchro's speed. God Bless you MX sensor!

I may still kit out a set of ZF's with the 35, 50 and 85 at 1.4 for low light emergencies.

Still thinkin'
 
looks pretty good!
can you post r3d frames (8 frames or)?
and did you do the noise reduction inside redcine x with an rocket attached?
 
Christopher Barrett said:
concerned about that as well, I did a test the other night using my RPZ 17-50 at 2.9 shooting at 1600 and processing out as RedLogFilm with the noise reduction cranked up a little.... I was pretty happy with the results and feeling better about the Panchro's speed. God Bless you MX sensor!

I may still kit out a set of ZF's with the 35, 50 and 85 at 1.4 for low light emergencies.

Still thinkin'
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ZF 35 is f/2 or t/2.1

ZF 50 & 85 are f/1.4 or t/1.5

I freaking LOVE those ZF lenses, they make completely gorgeous stills, and nice motion images.

The one issue with your suggestion is that its sort of hard to find PL mounted ZF lenses.

It will probably be easier to see if you can buy a Compact Prime (original) to get the speed in a PL mount. (The newer CP.2 lenses are all t/2.1, which was completely a business decision from what I can tell- but I don't want to get into that.)

That or get fast at swapping your mount- which seems like a scary gamble to me.
 
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The 35 f/1.4 is supposed to be out around February. I've got the 35 f/2 and the 85 now using the Allstar mount to swap between those and PL glass. That 85 is just beautiful! Almost even makes ME look good...

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Christopher Barrett said:
The 35 f/1.4 is supposed to be out around February. I've got the 35 f/2 and the 85 now using the Allstar mount to swap between those and PL glass. That 85 is just beautiful! Almost even makes ME look good...
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I didn't know about the upcoming lens.

I assume its still a ZF lens right?

That's pretty exciting.

I think I could happily build a lens kit around PL t/2.6 or t/2.9 zoom lenses for most work with those ZF's in the kit... if I could only get them converted to PL mount.

Better yet if Zeiss's CP.3 reverted to t/1.5 on those lenses, that would be AWESOME. If they added the 100mm Macro with CP.3, that would be even more insanely fantastic. Oh, and LDS or /i data. (If they can do data for DSLR lenses... then why not PL mount?)

Speaking of lens data... can you actually use lens data from RED cameras yet? Last I checked that was a no go.
 
The CP.1s were as fast as the ZF versions... (But there was no 1.4/35 back then)
 
yeah, actually I'm not sure why I thought the CPs were all slower than the ZFs, they're not far off.... all the wide stuff is wicked slow in both lines.

randomness : I was surprised to find my ZFs noticeably colder than my RPZ 17-50.

I gotta stop friggin obsessing over glass, just buy some shit and go to work.
 
yes christopher commit... it all gets fucked with in post to match now... its kinda irrelevant.

shootin is much more important than thinking about what you will shoot with... I don't mean that with any negative connotations... just one fellow obsessive to another.
 
Likewise... I was totally considering just putting my money into an Epic and Canon glass. Becoming annoyed with my ministrations, my wife said to me, if your biggest problem is how to spend $30k, you're getting no sympathy from me!

Yeah.

/rant
 
Christopher Barrett said:
Likewise... I was totally considering just putting my money into an Epic and Canon glass. Becoming annoyed with my ministrations, my wife said to me, if your biggest problem is how to spend $30k, you're getting no sympathy from me!

Yeah.

/rant
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thats georgous, wifes have the talent to put things in perspective....but if they would know how it feels to be addicted to gear...
 
Heh... I was sitting at the kitchen table staring at the computer and I must have appeared really frustrated because my wife looked over at me and said "Just get the lenses you want..."

Yeah. I'm getting the Cookes. Done.

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Hey Christopher. I think that that is a good decision. It seems to me based on your other posts that you are really looking for a particular aesthetic. Please let us know what you think when you get them.
 
panchros are bad ass, just wish they were half stop faster! read some tests on them though, done by forums Ryan O'hara. they match pretty much identically to s4's... freakin awesome.
 
Ohh I wouldn't get the Cookes....
 
I'd wait to NAB if I were you...
 
Did you see that new video Mitch posted???
 
Just helping you with some gut checks :)

Enjoy the new glass -- don't check the lens forum anymore!
 
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