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Nvidia GTX Titan CUDA compatible Super Card!!!

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In Premiere it won't do a whole lot over a GTX570, 670, 580, 680... Or at least I don't expect it to. Those GPUs are rarely stressed in Premiere unless you're doing a lot of serious FX or multiple transitions and things that happen at once. The card itself is about 65% faster than a standard GTX680 for CUDA calculations. But two GTX680's are still faster in apps like Resolve that support multiple GPUs, if you have the slots to accommodate. I've got a Titan on order, still no word on shipping, but looking forward to putting it through its paces. I'm actually still expecting the GTX690 to be the faster card as it's dual GTX680s on a single card. For many apps on that use 64bit dual precision calculations, the Titan is going to SCREAM. Premiere and Resolve are single-precision...
 
Thanks Jeff
What card do you reckon would give the best performance for the best price.
I'm getting the impression from you this is one of those things that suffers a bit from the law of diminishing returns. :)
It did sound exciting tho! :)

Freya
 
GTX690 is quite fast now, Titan is too expensive, more than 1K RMB over GTX690 here, 80% speed, almost same power requirement, same two slots size, well I'm looking forward to a Dual Titan 8G card to be available soon.
Anyone tried intel PHI? It's available in Beijing now, you can even get a free test one to use one week, but that card requires special chassis with wind tube design since it has no fan on it, so I was refused...
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
In Premiere it won't do a whole lot over a GTX570, 670, 580, 680... Or at least I don't expect it to. Those GPUs are rarely stressed in Premiere unless you're doing a lot of serious FX or multiple transitions and things that happen at once. The card itself is about 65% faster than a standard GTX680 for CUDA calculations. But two GTX680's are still faster in apps like Resolve that support multiple GPUs, if you have the slots to accommodate. I've got a Titan on order, still no word on shipping, but looking forward to putting it through its paces. I'm actually still expecting the GTX690 to be the faster card as it's dual GTX680s on a single card. For many apps on that use 64bit dual precision calculations, the Titan is going to SCREAM. Premiere and Resolve are single-precision...
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you tested Titan ?
 
Kemalettin Sert said:
you tested Titan ?
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Yes.

I've got a write-up / review mostly put together, but I was holding off finishing it until the next revision of drivers got posted. It was posted on the 15th, last friday, but I did not have time over the weekend to do more testing. Will get to it tomorrow and wednesday.

In a nutshell, the card is very nice. Faster at many things than the GTX680/690. The 690 is better for other things, but consumes more power and isn't as good for an all-around GPU. Drivers are pretty flakey. I will see what the updated 314.21 beta version brings us... The card looks very promising, but as with most new hardware releases, it takes a few revisions of the drivers (a month or two, sometimes three or four) to get everything smoothed out.
 
Sidney L. Plaut said:
Jeff,

is there any way to put a gtx690 in mac pro?
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Yes. But you will need an external power supply. It consumes 2X the available PCIe power that the Mac Pro supplies!!! Uses dual 8-pin connectors and uses them to the limit when under load. You will actually be better off with a single GTX680. Premiere can't use more than one CUDA card and Resolve, which can use multiple, does not use the primary/ GUI card for CUDA if one or more other CUDA cards are available. Which means, you're only going to get one GTX680 worth of acceleration out of most apps anyway. The 690 is an awesome card for games and anything that can use dual GTX cards in SLI fashion. It's proving to be a better gaming card than the Titan in my tests. Titan rips the snot out of the GTX690 for OpenGL, CUDa and that sort of stuff.

Titan will work in a Mac Pro as well. Technically it draws too much power as well, but you can probably make it work. Don't do it just yet, though -- no proper driver support for it. I tried. :)

Best Mac video card now is the Quadro K5000, but it's $1800usd. I'm waiting to see what happens when we finally get some stable drivers before I decide which card to leave in my Z820. Either the existing Quadro 6000 or the Titan. Quadro 6000 is still super-stable and crushes everyone when it comes to OpenGL. For CUDA it's on par with an overclocked GTX580 -- same core GPU at a slower clock rate, but superior memory capacity and throughput. Titan is showing to be about 15% faster in CUDA, but performance is erratic due to current drivers. Faster for gaming and DirectX by far. Slower for legacy OpenGL... It's a tough call, but I'll probably go with the Titan as I intend to replace the dual 30" displays with a single 4K display when my PN-K321 arrives.

Danai Chutinaton said:
Looking forward to ur review!
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Still working. Going to have new drivers here soon again I'm told. 314.21 drivers hare causing stability issues and I had to roll back. This card is seriously not ready for use. LOL..

I posted DaVinci candle test benchmarks in another thread around here. Titan is fast, but flakey with current drivers. It's faster than the Quadro 6000 for most things in Resolve, but not by much. Quadro 6000 beats Titan on NR nodes... Hopefully that changes.

Tesla K20X uses the same GK110 GPU found in Titan, but implements it with superior memory architecture. It's about 30% faster than Titan for CUDA from what I can tell. Too bad K20X is a $3800 card. I think a Quadro K5000 (or upcoming K6000) with a couple K20X cards would make for one awesome Resolve workstation. At a steep price.
 
GTX TITAN natively supported in Mountain Lion 10.8.4 beta according to netkas.... here's to new Mac PRO hopes

http://netkas.org/?p=1243

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Curious to know what your findings were especially with regard to editing R3D files natively in Premiere.

Jeff Kilgroe said:
Yes.

I've got a write-up / review mostly put together, but I was holding off finishing it until the next revision of drivers got posted. It was posted on the 15th, last friday, but I did not have time over the weekend to do more testing. Will get to it tomorrow and wednesday.

In a nutshell, the card is very nice. Faster at many things than the GTX680/690. The 690 is better for other things, but consumes more power and isn't as good for an all-around GPU. Drivers are pretty flakey. I will see what the updated 314.21 beta version brings us... The card looks very promising, but as with most new hardware releases, it takes a few revisions of the drivers (a month or two, sometimes three or four) to get everything smoothed out.
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Jeff Kilgroe said:
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Best Mac video card now is the Quadro K5000, but it's $1800usd. I'm waiting to see what happens when we finally get some stable drivers before I decide which card to leave in my Z820. Either the existing Quadro 6000 or the Titan. Quadro 6000 is still super-stable and crushes everyone when it comes to OpenGL. For CUDA it's on par with an overclocked GTX580 -- same core GPU at a slower clock rate, but superior memory capacity and throughput. Titan is showing to be about 15% faster in CUDA, but performance is erratic due to current drivers. Faster for gaming and DirectX by far. Slower for legacy OpenGL... It's a tough call, but I'll probably go with the Titan as I intend to replace the dual 30" displays with a single 4K display when my PN-K321 arrives.
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Tesla K20X uses the same GK110 GPU found in Titan, but implements it with superior memory architecture. It's about 30% faster than Titan for CUDA from what I can tell. Too bad K20X is a $3800 card. I think a Quadro K5000 (or upcoming K6000) with a couple K20X cards would make for one awesome Resolve workstation. At a steep price.
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I also think it's the best card for linux, I am using the k5000 on a linux computer (centos 6.3). I haven't had any driver problems with the k5000 even though it's new. It seems to deal with a lot of processing units without bogging down, i'm running 32 processes units against a single k5000 and i don't see any of the processors waiting on the k5000. my 690 just feels slower and i see the cpu's not going 100% on mixed processing(my assumption is there is some bottle neck somewhere) as i jump between random workloads. i still have some driver issues with the 690 too.
 
Robert Ruffo New said:
Potential problem with the titan is power draw. We'll have to see.
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I have started moving to two power supplies per computer/pc/server. As long as not much is happening it's just as quite as one power supply, but when some huge render is going on it gets noisy.
 
Titan works on my MacPRO ok in Resolve, like acceptable performance, but doesn't do much in Adobe, cause CUDA features of Titan not fully supported by Adobe. I guess it is because Titan is not certified by Apple, even having in mind that it technically works fine with10.9. Apple keen on ATI again - they playing that game jumping from AMD to ATI model-to-model so OpenCL and Open Gl not even close to level you can have in Windows. My opinion - if you want to go GPU rendering - go Windows first :)
 
Looking back to the beginning of this thread, it's a good reminder of just how fast things change with this stuff. These days, it seems the GTX680 Mac Edition is the best all-around card for a Mac Pro tower for single-GPU out of the box load and go... The GTX780 is winning out the price/performance battle for CUDA acceleration, but driver support falls a bit short on OSX so there are shortcomings there. It draws more power than the Mac Pro wants to provide, but seems do-able and works in most situations. The Titan one-ups the 780 in performance, but also costs a good bit more. Draws more power too. Not really recommended for inside a Mac tower without supplemental power...

All these cards work best under OSX Mavericks with the latest nvidia/ CUDA drivers.

Adobe Premiere, especially CS6, is very finicky about GPU support and what gets accelerated.
 
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