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November 30th Announcement Feedback

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Ben Holmes said:
Nope - I'm sorry, I think that's about the single ugliest (and by that I'm refering to the ergonomics) camera I've ever seen. If you are selling a fixed package, this should include the items required to hold it - even if you are using a tripod, you will want to pick it up sometimes, without attaching rails, or red gunners or whatever.

Look - I work with RED footage, so I know the camera will take amazing video. I just can't yet visualise using it myself, nor any of the TV cameramen I work with every day (and if you're not targeting them with the 2/3", who are you?)

Not trying to be negative - I'd like to hear why I'm wrong - clearly people have held and handled this, so I'd love to hear from them.
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I know what you mean, but I don't think you or your cameramen will film with this cam holding it handheld on one handle mounted direct to the cam. Way to much unwanted motion. So you'd need something like a Tripod, a steadycam or some shouldermount to use it. And a Handle just to carry this thing around would just be at the wrong place all the time imho...
 
Wow... a lot to take in. Some very fantastic announcements. :coolgleamA:

Unfortunately it sounds like Tattoo is very small, and unless there is an R1 M-X upgrade announcement to be included there won't be much to do about shooting this winter with the added DR... but congrats on all the work accomplished and keep on trucking!

A special thank you for heated EVF! Few will comment, but it is a very cool trick!

Red listens!

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Redmote Pro looks interesting. The pro level FF market will be hard to crack: no leniency for growing pains there, it will either work to a focus puller's standards or it won't. Either way sweet option for the fixed prosumer market.

I'm really excited about the internal heater in the Bomb EVF:

"One great new feature that just snuck in in time for production is the Bomb EVF now has an internal heater, to allow for extremely cold operation. BOMB EVFs will work with all RED CAMERAS, including the RED ONE."

Working outside of LA in (heaven forbid) cold environments, the EVF solorizes all the time and is a big nuisance. There are corrective measures, but again they are annoying. I didn't know if these EVF problems would make there way all the way to sunny California and into the new design. Really, really, impressed that Red's philosophy of listening to the customers actually plays out so well in day to day product design. Thanks again Red!

One less quirk I have to explain on Set!
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
A special thank you for heated EVF! Few will comment, but it is a very cool trick!

Red listens!

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In cold situations (the kinda cold people really shouldn't be in :) ) the Display and the batteries seem to always go first... You can always keep batteries warm in a pack but the EVF was a hard one to keep warm.. so we added a heater :)
 
Ben Holmes said:
But what about all the sharp angles on the nearside?

You know what - nevermind. It's late here and I've been working all weekend - so I'm just being cranky. I look forward to seeing all the other shots of it, and being proved wrong - apologies. Move along.
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Yeah I think it sort of looks like it'll NEED the bottom handle... rounding things off a bit and such...

Ah well... Still whoops the ass of any other camera I've seen at that price point... even if I do have to fork out extra for the bottom handle to make it more comfortable...


Hey there's an idea... A bottom handle with nothing in it. Just the empty shell...to help with the form factor... then we can choose to upgrade to a bottom handle that's got some extra capabilities or whatever... modularly.
 
I wish the 2/3 would take 12MP stills (as that's the minimum I can use for my still photography work). Different strokes for different folks. I hate HDR imaging to a fault but I appreciate being given the option; I'm not going to begrudge RED for giving me options :)

Great work guys. Just wondering about the roll out plans, who gets what first and RED RAY/digital cinema compatability.

You guys rock :)
 
Red Ray Pro design is too cool. I would even pay to have a non-working mockup of it on my desk :)
 
GPSchnyder said:
I know what you mean, but I don't think you or your cameramen will film with this cam holding it handheld on one handle mounted direct to the cam. Way to much unwanted motion. So you'd need something like a Tripod, a steadycam or some shouldermount to use it. And a Handle just to carry this thing around would just be at the wrong place all the time imho...
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Ok - now I really am turning in. I appreciate your views - but I spend by life looking at amazing handheld footage (so I guess that's the gunner option), and ENG cameramen work constantly on and off the tripod. I think what I was getting at was the DSLR ergonomics and those that will shoot video with it like that.

It just looks uncomfortable to me.

OK - enjoy your mornings/afternoons/evenings.
 
Eren Ozkural said:
I wish the 2/3 would take 12MP stills (as that's the minimum I can use for my still photography work). Different strokes for different folks. I hate HDR imaging to a fault but I appreciate being given the option; I'm not going to begrudge RED for giving me options :)

Great work guys. Just wondering about the roll out plans, who gets what first and RED RAY/digital cinema compatability.

You guys rock :)
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I can understand why you hate HDR, as so much of it looks awful. However, that's because of awful tonemapping techniques that make great photos look like a kid's crayon picture. You can sleep well at night knowing there's no way I'd allow any HDR we do to look like that.

Graeme
 
how long can you film on a 16g cf card with the scarlet redcodec 100? is 16g the biggest card? Even better gig per minute?
 
Any idea of pricing for the RED Ray Pro? If it is shipping in 2 months, it'd be great to have an idea of what range this thing is coming in at. Determined yet?
 
Michael Stanmore said:
Yeah I think it sort of looks like it'll NEED the bottom handle... rounding things off a bit and such...

Ah well... Still whoops the ass of any other camera I've seen at that price point... even if I do have to fork out extra for the bottom handle to make it more comfortable...


Hey there's an idea... A bottom handle with nothing in it. Just the empty shell...to help with the form factor... then we can choose to upgrade to a bottom handle that's got some extra capabilities or whatever... modularly.
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Agreed. On all points... Have a great day.
 
Eddy Robinson said:
I can't agree. Sooner would be nice but this is very competitive pricing. The only thing that strikes me as overpriced is the RED Matte box, but I have a down on matte boxes anyway...I'm sure there will be affordable 3rd party rail/follow focus systems for the RED primes, and it may not even be necessary with the Fixed lens.

Certainly, the competition will have increased in 6 months time, but the $5k fixed lens package still sounds like a winner.
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Will Red have mass production Red Scarlet fixed in a reasonable supply to meet demand in June 2010?

I do agree for the money "today" the $5K package sounds good ... My concern is timing, and not being strung along by a manufacturer for another year... be it Red, Canon or Panasonic. Hence why I think Scarlet will likely be a late year rental for me while I buy a Canon to get work done all year 2010 ...

Jarred- any comments?
 
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