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November 30th Announcement Feedback

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Clayton Burkhart said:
Where is the FF35? No S35 specs? MORE DETAILS SOMETIME?
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scarlet super35 uses the same sensor as epic-x and epic super35 which is obviously already done

both scarlet 2/3" obviously use the same chip which makes them easy to put out at the same time

I think RED is withholding information on ff35 right now because they likely cannot give an accurate time frame or pricing right now. Just like they withheld information on oct. 30th when they weren't ready with scarlet info.

While it may seem disappointing I think it's better than feeding you information which is not only subject to change but is almost completely certain to change.

I expect that when the monstro ff35 is getting closer to completion they will give out information on the epic and scarlet models in waves similar to this. The upside is that until then you will be able to determine exact pricing on modules, mounts, and other things you will need until then.
 
Jarred Land said:
The 16GB cards can't record REDCODE 100. The 16GB cards can however record REDCODE 42.
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thanks, I was talking to my roommate tonight when you answered my last wave of questions.

I was telling him how frustrated I was that I didn't have anyone to talk to about the new developments (in the real world not internet).

I was able to explain to him what I like about red. He wears quicksilver wetsuits for surfing. I said to him "If I expected Quicksilver to listen to my inputs on wetsuits, and ask them direct questions and expect direct answers what would you say"

he said "I'd say your f***ing high"

then I told him about how top level guys at RED answer our questions here, and for once he kind of understood why I was so psyched about this company...

anyway, just lettin you know I appreciate how open you guys all are and how much time you spend on these forums with us
 
Jarred, just few question regarding this:

32. Rugged aluminum or magnesium body
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- Does this mean that we can choose?
- Will there be a price difference?
- How much lighter will be the magnesium version (providing there is one...)?

Thanks buddy...

:devil: Peter
 
Paul Spurrier said:
Given the 2/3 inch chip, I suspect that 35mm still or film lenses will not be the best choice of lens for the Scarlet.
I haven't done the maths. I'm sure others have, but I guess that a 35mm still lens focal angle will be at least doubled when used on the Scarlet.
Also, one will only be using the centre portion of the lens, and the lens was not designed for this.
The only lenses I can think of that should be instantly compatible are those designed for 2/3 inch video cameras, machine vision cameras, or 16mm cameras.
The problem with the 2/3 inch video camera lenses is that many weren't designed for high-definition and won't have the required resolution.
But machine vision lenses or 16mm lenses should be quite usable.

The common mounts for these are 'C' mount, PL-mount, and maybe Arri bayonet or Aaton mounts.

May I suggest that if there is a schedule for releasing lens mounts that 'C'mount and PL mount will be far more useful and should take priority over the Nikon and Canon mounts.

At the moment, in the Nov 30 announcement, no mention is made of PL or 'C' mount, which is surprising.

Paul
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Pl mounts come standard....canon and nikon will be very useful on the first released cameras epic-x and epic s35 so it is definitely important they be available when these models come out

I expect the mini-pl mounts will come out at the same time as the scarlet cinema 2/3" as long as the entire set of primes is read by then too.

C mount I would guess be around soon after the release because really all it has to be is a plate that screws onto the front of the camera that has the correct size threading on it.

the nikon and canon mounts mentioned earlier take much more work because they include an interface to utilize electronic nikons and canons.
 
Peter Osinski said:
anyway, just lettin you know I appreciate how open you guys all are and how much time you spend on these forums with us
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We appreciate how much time you guys spend here too.. We are all in this together :)
 
Jason Ramsey said:
or, solid state drives :)
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yes with the ssd module although we don't know how much each drive will be.

(although in the october 30th announcement in the render of the red station it shows a REDMAG 128 in a slot with 1.8 on it. Surely meaning 1.8" 128GB drive)

and there will also be a module for attaching RED RAM and RED DRIVE although I would think the only reason to use those would be if you already owned them or bought them used
 
I was hoping to find prices for extra batteries (and charger) this time. Is it possible to spill some beans, or is it still subject to change?
 
Thanks for your reply Peter. I have seen several folks post about this and go largely ignored. To be honest feels more like a fan club than a discussion. All the folks waiting in the wings in the 5D/7D world were hanging on this announcement and really still don't have any answers. What it does mean is that they will probably go forward into the next generation with Canon instead. Why? The glass. Either we want access to PLMount as an S35 user, or the broad array of 35mm still glass with access to PL. The PL to EOS adapter guys are just waiting to see if it's worth it to them. This announcement (or lack of it) means they will probably go forward. The real questions: How fast will the Scarlet S35 or FF be reading off the sensor, in order to get around rolling shutter? How will it be downscaling to avoid aliasing, moire, artifacts, etc.? These are the solutions that are worth paying for.
 
Clayton Burkhart said:
Thanks for your reply Peter. I have seen several folks post about this and go largely ignored. To be honest feels more like a fan club than a discussion. All the folks waiting in the wings in the 5D/7D world were hanging on this announcement and really still don't have any answers. What it does mean is that they will probably go forward into the next generation with Canon instead. Why? The glass. Either we want access to PLMount as an S35 user, or the broad array of 35mm still glass with access to PL. The real questions: How fast will the Scarlet S35 or FF be reading off the sensor, in order to get around rolling shutter? How will it be downscaling to avoid aliasing, moire, artifacts, etc.? These are the solutions that are worth paying for.
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of course. and I know what you mean about the fan club thing, but if you are around long enough you see that it is mostly just good information. I have gotten tons of answers here and learned a lot about many aspects of filmmaking.

You will run into more BS though when you get into the threads that are purely based on speculation or whining about prices.

Not that I would ever ask you to ignore other people's info. But your best bet in a big thread like this with lots of new information (if you dont feel like reading everything of course) is to scan through until you see a post from one of the red guys. They are the ones with the facts and they will usually post an answer with the question quoted.

I call that strategy a hitchhiker's guide to reduser....haha jk
 
clayton, seriously. this is not an announcement? are you serious? I see nothing but specs, prices and even est. delivery dates... what exactly were you expecting?
 
Clayton Burkhart said:
The real questions: How fast will the Scarlet S35 or FF be reading off the sensor, in order to get around rolling shutter?
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Jim has stated in the past that the Epic and Scarlet are 5 microsecs and the RED One is 9 microsecs.

Jannard said:
Sorry to slightly disagree with Mitch. Spinning mirror is 4 microsecs and Epic is 5. One won't help Epic at all. It already matches (virtually) what a spinning mirror does on a film camera for skew.

Jim
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