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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

new REDCINE-X feedback

BajaProductions said:
PROBLEM ENCOUNTERED WITH V.104

Import an entire folder: grade clips...move down to other clips....

*Sometimes the grade will be there when i go back to it
*Other times the grade is completely GONE

It is rather random. I can grade a clip, to to metadata, then back to grade and the Grade i did is then GONE....?????
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Are you grading from the bin or the timeline?
Meaning do you pull the files into the bin first and then pull the clips into the player and then grade?
 
Deanan said:
Are you grading from the bin or the timeline?
Meaning do you pull the files into the bin first and then pull the clips into the player and then grade?
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Deanan,
I've done both. Pulled them direct into the VIEWER (and those clips go direct to BIN). But also i've pulled clips direct to the TIMELINE and graded both ways. Honestly, i was not paying attention if clips from the BIN or TIMELINE were giving me problems. I only noticed my grades would not hold on random ciips that I had graded. Am i supposed to grade only from BIN ?

thanks Deanan
 
redcine-X bugs feedback

redcine-X bugs feedback

I noticed several bugs when testing REDCINE-X today.

I'm still trying to narrow them down precisely but one involves cropping and TC burn-ins when doing a scaled output :

If the output size is not at 4096 burn-in are OK as long as no crop is applied. Once you apply a crop using framing tool, burn-ins are ignored.
A 4096 output is OK even with a crop but the burn in position seems to always refer to the original aspect ratio and can also get partially cropped if rendering at 4096 with a smaller height.

Also on the output panel, the de-bayer settings seems broken here. Only nearest fit renders fine, all the other setting produce several stretched images on a row at top... see capture below. (16 images for 1/16th...). Happened with QT, tiffs or dpx

Are those already known issues or is it worth sending some logs / detailed reports by email ?

tests were done on OS X RCX B104 with 4K 16/9 files
 

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I too am experiencing the random black frame.

Carl Dieker said:
Hey,

I am getting these random black frames in different places in my footage when exporting.

I am running build 104 on a 2009 MBP 17" w/ Snow Leopard. The material is shot both in 4k 16:9 and 4.5 WS at REDCODE 28. Export settings are 25p 2048x1152, ProRes HQ.

Looking at rendered QuickTime proxies in FCP 7 there are no black frames in the footgage. Also no black frames when exporting from REDALERT. But this doesn't help very much since I would like to use FLUT™™ and all the other good stuff in REDCINE-X 104.

Never had a problem like this before.

Solution anyone?

Thanks,

Calle
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BajaProductions said:
Deanan,
I've done both. Pulled them direct into the VIEWER (and those clips go direct to BIN). But also i've pulled clips direct to the TIMELINE and graded both ways. Honestly, i was not paying attention if clips from the BIN or TIMELINE were giving me problems. I only noticed my grades would not hold on random ciips that I had graded. Am i supposed to grade only from BIN ?

thanks Deanan
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I think this might be where the confusion is:
If you pull from browser to player, the grade doesn't have anywhere to save (that changes with the RMD files coming soon).

If you put the clip in the bin, then grade the clip from the bin or timeline in the player, then it should save the grade as expected.
 
Mikael Lubtchansky said:
I noticed several bugs when testing REDCINE-X today.

I'm still trying to narrow them down precisely but one involves cropping and TC burn-ins when doing a scaled output :

If the output size is not at 4096 burn-in are OK as long as no crop is applied. Once you apply a crop using framing tool, burn-ins are ignored.
A 4096 output is OK even with a crop but the burn in position seems to always refer to the original aspect ratio and can also get partially cropped if rendering at 4096 with a smaller height.

Also on the output panel, the de-bayer settings seems broken here. Only nearest fit renders fine, all the other setting produce several stretched images on a row at top... see capture below. (16 images for 1/16th...). Happened with QT, tiffs or dpx

Are those already known issues or is it worth sending some logs / detailed reports by email ?

tests were done on OS X RCX B104 with 4K 16/9 files
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Yes, please send the verbose logs and details by email. We should be able to fix it once we recreate as we're not seeing that here.
 
Deanan said:
I think this might be where the confusion is:
If you pull from browser to player, the grade doesn't have anywhere to save (that changes with the RMD files coming soon).

If you put the clip in the bin, then grade the clip from the bin or timeline in the player, then it should save the grade as expected.
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Deanan,
I'll try again and see if i get the same. BUT, as i recall, i had pulled into the Bin then viewer and graded. Then also directly into timeline. BUT, let me do some more tests (free of charge) and get back to you.....
Thanks,
JOhnny
 
BajaProductions said:
Deanan,
I keep seeing posts where you tell folks to turn on VERBOSE LOGGING. Should this be standard and to always have it on? Is there any down side? slower performance etc...??

I have NO IDEA what that is....?
JF
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It can make really big files and can slow things down a small amount. It's better to keep it off for most people as we only need them if there's something we want to diagnose.
 
Grades now seem to be sticking within REDCINE-X v104. Now for some other minor feedback:
While in the viewer and a clip is in the bin or timeline: if i set an IN POINT, the play head (most of the time) jumps ahead by a few seconds.....then i have to move it back to begin looking for my outpoint.

Still looking for more.....
 
BajaProductions said:
Grades now seem to be sticking within REDCINE-X v104. Now for some other minor feedback:
While in the viewer and a clip is in the bin or timeline: if i set an IN POINT, the play head (most of the time) jumps ahead by a few seconds.....then i have to move it back to begin looking for my outpoint.

Still looking for more.....
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That's fixed in the next build.
 
Black Frames

Black Frames

The black frames are random..
Not in the same place if I export again.
Sometimes not at all.

Deanan said:
If it's repeatable for you, we'd like to get a verbose log file from you.
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Small thing.

Shouldn't the default button in the third section of the ''Image'' window bring the DRX slider to 0.00 instead of 0.50?

Keep up the good work.
 
Deanan said:
Yes, please send the verbose logs and details by email. We should be able to fix it once we recreate as we're not seeing that here.
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sent you an email with the logs and details of issues with the burn-ins and crop aspect ratios for PAL SD

will send later details about the de-bayer setting issues

Thanks much
 
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