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New 1.7 Primes for the RED ONE from Germany:

Under USD 10,000 per a set of five lenses and it is a possible purchase. Otherwise, with this crisis, it will not be easy to get the economies of scale.
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I think they are aiming for $15k-$30k USD (guessing the numbers he's posted are euros) for the lenses considering the previous posts. That seems reasonable for a set of 5 if they are good as Laguun says they are! I'm hoping closer towards $15k, but even at $30k that's not too bad considering the cheapest "true cine" primes are $35k.

Matthew
 
cine prices will not sale like peanuts
 
Ultra primes are about $12K last time I checked Master Primes are close to $30K per lens. My guess is a retail price of about $5-7K per lens.

Have a look here.
Ultra Primes go from £ 6,652.26 and Master Primes go from £ 11,238.42. They say they ship internationally but of course I don't know if that is to the US.
 
Am I missing something? The prices I see are £ 15,850.77 + VAT or similar...

Yeah, the prices look pretty ordinary to me. They seem to have a damn good price on that UP 8R though. Although, I haven't had one quoted in a while.
 
Cheaper PL mount glass would be great, but the price generally has been one way, up, and its taken too long for cheaper alternatives to arrive for me, so..

I bought the Zeiss ZFs, 28, 35, 50, 85 & 100, £3500 , for lower budget clients.

They're outstanding. I'll definately be looking at the 21 too. If money is tight, they're a no brainer if looking for new glass IMO

I wish I'd taken the Nikon route from day one..
 
Im really curious if these are comparable in price to the Red primes or way over or way under...
 
Designed by Zeiss, made by Cosina. That's all I'm saying and it seems you're agreeing with me. I might have phrased it poorly, but then I was educated in England.

You're not reading my post correctly. Glass (and most of the inside) come from Zeiss in Germany, but is assembled by Cosina (who also makes the casing). So we're both right :shifty:
 
my guess is the sweet spot for the new-world 'economies of scale' PL lenses will be about 5 grand USD a pop. if you own old zeiss MK-series lenses, I would sell them while ya still can......in another year, their prices will be way less than they have been lately.....
 
final testing is progressing better than expecting.
images probably already early next or even _this_ weekend. we are excited.

several real world productions now have finished shooting with the new primes, as the beta turned more and more in real world production.

the mechanical design will probably be slightly adjusted before shipping in numbers.
the optical design, and thats the important thing, is keeping up well in the lab as well real world comparisions to ultras and s4s. masters are still faster, slightly faster however.

regarding prices & quality: expect nothing less than kickass.

real kickass. it seems feasible that we can do to lenses what red did to cameras.
 
I'm VERY interested to see both the results of the lenses and see what the final price point is- with Red coming out with their own primes and also touting great optics at low prices, it seems that the race is on...
 
If those lenses that "Laguun" is talking/testing about are made by ISCO

than could maybe become one day a front "anamorphic" lenses because

ISCO is also making "Anamorphic Attachment 1.33x".

"Taking Lenses

The product range of taking lenses is in development and will contain a series
of fixed focal length lenses for broadcast applications with 4K-cameras as well
as anamorphic attachments with the factor 1.33x which enables Cinemascope
video films with horizontally compressed image content.

Broadcast 4K-Lenses
Anamorphic Attachment 1.33x"


LINK>>>
 
we are having to much fun with this :)

we will release images this week.

prices, well probably as well but, i cant guarantee.
however - be prepared to a cool surprise, a _real_ cool surprise.
 
Laguun has posted previously this about the price:

Don't know if that's USD or Euros, but either way it would be the cheapest PL cine-glass available new.
It's interesting that this new glass seems to come from Schott, which, AFAIK is owned by Carl-Zeiss. (And also produces the glass for Schneider-Kreuznach)

Schott is larger than Zeiss and/or Arri - therefore they dont own them.

As a matter of fact, schott employs ~16* more people than Arri.

The glass we use if built by Schott - The same glass bought by Arri/Zeiss for their MP/UP Design.

edit:
http://www.schott.com/german/index.html
 
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