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NAB13- RED MOTION MOUNT

Mark,

Can you give a reference to where one might find how to adjust back focus property? Thanks.

Mark L. Pederson said:
Just carry your standard PL with you in the event you want to shoot wider than a T4 - or you want to shoot in low light like a night exterior. You have to adjust back focus when changing to and from standard PL and Motion Mount - but if you know what you are doing - you can change the mount and adjust back focus in less than 3 minutes.
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Will Keir said:
Mark,

Can you give a reference to where one might find how to adjust back focus property? Thanks.
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Back Focus is adjusted directly form Camera Will.

For best accuracy I use the RedFocus, but I sold both my PL & Canon Ti standard mounts, and I do not see myself changing back to them from the Motion Mounts, no matter the aperture I'll shoot at, but then again, it is all about shooting styles and dictated needs of your shoot.
 
Finally played with one of these, I like the concept, but the light loss was too rich for my blood. And generally speaking I can paint muzzle flashes back in or repair strobe damage fairly easy in post (inconvenient for sure) but losing 1.6 stops (the testing felt like MORE light loss than that), was too much for the DP to want to use.

Maybe it'll be more viable once Dragon is released. Again I wouldn't mind having it in my kit...eventually. And the backfocus issue was another deal killer.
 
Is there any light loss using a Motion Mount versus a standard Titanium Mount?

An hypothetical test: An Epic camera (Dragon or MX), 24 fps, 800 ISO, 180º shutter. Two shots with the same color chart, lens, T-stop, lighting, an with no ND, clean. One shot with a Motion Munt and the other with a Titanium Mont.

Will I get the same exposure/histogram/meters on both R3D files?
 
Isaac Marchionna said:
Finally played with one of these, I like the concept, but the light loss was too rich for my blood. And generally speaking I can paint muzzle flashes back in or repair strobe damage fairly easy in post (inconvenient for sure) but losing 1.6 stops (the testing felt like MORE light loss than that), was too much for the DP to want to use.

Maybe it'll be more viable once Dragon is released. Again I wouldn't mind having it in my kit...eventually. And the backfocus issue was another deal killer.
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To me the motion mount is all about motion blur and more of a sine wave almost global shutter.... that you can't do much about in post. :)
 
Jon D. Domínguez said:
Is there any light loss using a Motion Mount versus a standard Titanium Mount?

An hypothetical test: An Epic camera (Dragon or MX), 24 fps, 800 ISO, 180º shutter. Two shots with the same color chart, lens, T-stop, lighting, an with no ND, clean. One shot with a Motion Munt and the other with a Titanium Mont.

Will I get the same exposure/histogram/meters on both R3D files?
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Nope, it's useful to download the Motion Mount Manual to learn the quick ins and outs of the device.

The quick and dirty explanation is with the Motion Mount attached you immediately lose 1.6 stops of light, versus a standard lens mount. Another way to look at it would be with the Motion Mount you have an "always on" 1.6 stop ND filter.
 
Wow. Had it on our camera for 2 days and now not sure how I lived without it. For outdoor stuff it's the greatest thing ever.
 
Love our Motion Mount.

We offer it for rent with our DRAGON packages or separately if you have your own gear.

PM me here or email us at rentals@redcamcentral.com if you are interested.

Located in Los Angeles...
 
Bryan Koss said:
The DSMC operation guide says only the 32mm doesn't fit. Just checking if anyone has any hands on field experience with the combo?
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I recently was shooting with a set of Speed Panchros and ran into trouble. Evidently, some of the rear elements not only have a deeper flange depth than others, but they also telescope into the camera somewhat. I hadn't seen that before, and it cost us a repair when the rear element telescoped into the Motion Mount glass. It sounds like it varies from set to set with older glass— particularly in what company rehoused them— so it's worth talking to your rental house about it before you commit.

With the particular set I had rented, we were unable to use a lens wider than 40mm with the motion mount (the 18, 25, 32 were too deep)

That was the first issue we've had with the Motion Mount though— other than that it's been a fixture on my camera since I got it.

good luck.
 
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