NAB13- RED MOTION MOUNT

[Jason Diamond]

ND responds well and is fairly quick to the button press, have only gotten it this morning so will have a lot more time with it over the next few days.

 

[Matt Gottshalk]

Thanks Jason.

 

[Martin Stevens]

4 stops with Global shutter on and 8 in ND only mode. you can set the ND to increment/decrement in almost any fraction you want. I'd recommend setting a quick key for "Minimum ND" in case you're stuck at a lot of ND and want to get back to the lower end quickly. There is .43 ND (in optical density) when the mount is on the camera, which may not be a bad thing for a lot of situations.

Thanks Jason. I'm lazy so I will ask what does .43 ND = in stops? 1 and some change, but what is the change?

 

[Phil Holland]

Here is a screenshot of the menu for the motion mount. Still a few items to tweak but gives you the general idea. Jason since he is swinging one around now can post later what everything does. And obviously you can map whatever hard buttons you want to controls so you can have your handle rocker etc. modify ND valules etc on the fly without going into the menus.

Much appreciated. Now you've got me curious and thinking.

I've been saving my rocker on my DSMC Side Handle just for this.

4 stops with Global shutter on and 8 in ND only mode. you can set the ND to increment/decrement in almost any fraction you want. I'd recommend setting a quick key for "Minimum ND" in case you're stuck at a lot of ND and want to get back to the lower end quickly. There is .43 ND (in optical density) when the mount is on the camera, which may not be a bad thing for a lot of situations.

Also fascinating. So I'd imagine for those who desire Global Shutter control at all times for all lighting conditions across a broad range there's a reason to keep a standard set of .3, .6, and .9 NDs in the kit still just in case.

Thanks Jason. I'm lazy so I will ask what does .43 ND = in stops? 1 and some change, but what is the change?

Off the top of my noggin, I believe that's about 1.3 stops as your base loss with the Motion Mount attached.

 

[John Marchant]

That menu.... drool!

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Okay, I can't wait for this MM PL or Canon, so much shooting to do on the Beach that this is going to be a perfect solution in making my MB super light, with no Stages, just the MB and the 138 Circular Polarizer rotating Tray... Just Beautiful... Global Shutter... Icing on the cake.


Jarred, your guys haven't forgot how to take money from my RED account have they?...

 

[Jason Diamond]

Off the top of my noggin, I believe that's about 1.3 stops as your base loss with the Motion Mount attached.

The Mount reads out on screen as 1.44

Also fascinating. So I'd imagine for those who desire Global Shutter control at all times for all lighting conditions across a broad range there's a reason to keep a standard set of .3, .6, and .9 NDs in the kit still just in case.

Yeah, I'm very interested to see how the Mounts ND combines with Pola's and Standard ND's in the mattebox.

 

[Jason Diamond]

That menu.... drool!

I can honestly say I will not be putting my camera firmware back to 4.x.x if I can help it, I have fallen in love with the changes and improvements in 5.x.x in mere hours.

 

[Jarred Land]

It is polarized.. but since it is linear you can still use Circular polarizer and get the normal effect that the circular polarizer gives you on a standard camera. If you want for some reason to completely remove the polarization , you can add a quarter wave plate in front.

 

[paul schefz]

Here is a screenshot of the menu for the motion mount. Still a few items to tweak but gives you the general idea. Jason since he is swinging one around now can post later what everything does. And obviously you can map whatever hard buttons you want to controls so you can have your handle rocker etc. modify ND valules etc on the fly without going into the menus.

that is amazing...or the way it should be canon please!

 

[Blair S. Paulsen]

I welcome a bit of polarization in the optical path to improve phase coherence and, if I understand the physics correctly, MTF.

Cheers - #19

 

[Phil Holland]

The Mount reads out on screen as 1.44

Thanks for that info.

 

[Jeff Whitehurst]

I'll take mine in EF please! In the meantime, can we talk about what's hiding in that "Lens" option?

Here is a screenshot of the menu for the motion mount. Still a few items to tweak but gives you the general idea. Jason since he is swinging one around now can post later what everything does. And obviously you can map whatever hard buttons you want to controls so you can have your handle rocker etc. modify ND valules etc on the fly without going into the menus.

 

[Martin Stevens]

Thanks Jason.

Also, if the ND is polarized, does this mean that if I were to roll the camera, so as to make the horizon not horizontal,
that the reflections in water would go in and out of being more or less attenuated. (I hope this ? makes sense?)

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

Looking forward to the test results.

I really want to wrap my head around all the technical details of this one.

 

[Phil Holland]

Damn. You guys got me curious. Actually before I zip off to dinner another quicky question came to mind.

@Jason or Jarred - Can we get a brief summary of what each "Shutter Type" provides?

 

[Jason Diamond]

Can we get a brief summary of what each "Shutter Type" provides?

Soft Shutter: opens and closes in a Sine Wave
Square Shutter: Opens and closes on/off

I'm picturing the Soft Shutter to approximate a spinning mirror as light "fades" in and out of exposure. There's def way more technical dudes here than I am So I will not even try to explain certain things as I come across them but describe them as I understand them.

 

[Jason Diamond]

Thanks Jason.

Also, if the ND is polarized, does this mean that if I were to roll the camera, so as to make the horizon not horizontal,
that the reflections in water would go in and out of being more or less attenuated. (I hope this ? makes sense?)

Not sure, but I can see if I can try it before I have to give the mount back.

 

[Mark Pugh]

Surfaces glass or polymer?

Surfaces glass or polymer?

What are the exposed surfaces of the mount made of? Glass, or polymer like the Tessive filter?

 

[Phil Holland]

Soft Shutter: opens and closes in a Sine Wave
Square Shutter: Opens and closes on/off

I'm picturing the Soft Shutter to approximate a spinning mirror as light "fades" in and out of exposure. There's def way more technical dudes here than I am So I will not even try to explain certain things as I come across them but describe them as I understand them.

Ah. I know exactly what that's all about, just didn't understand the naming convention. There's a white paper on that whole thing with great example imagery I'll have to dig up. Any in frame blur or camera movement induced blur should have a nice smooth look to it rather than the typical "darted blast" feel. Action scenes, whip pans, tracking shots, etc... should look lovely if that's the look you enjoy.

I got a robotic head handy and I think that I can demonstrate that on pan back to back at some point.