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NAB13- BackPack Quickplate ( short )

Joe Kleber said:
This is #1 on my wish list.
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I' only like this idea IF you're able to turn off the power-passthrough in a fashion where it is fail-safe to not power up the camera by accident with(!) a battery mounted! There are scenarios where I have the Brick mounted but don't want the camera to be able to power up accidentally -> when the LEMO-Cable is unplugged this is pretty bullet-proof. Buttons can be pressed without even noticing when carrying a camera e.g. in a soft case - if you don't notice this it might be very dangerous (the camera will overheat after some time). Maybe this is not a problem anymore with the DSMC system - but with RED ONE I had this happening once and was only lucky that the camera survived (accidentally turned on in a closed soft-bag -> camera sucked the battery dry and went very hot; gladly there was not much time remaining on the battery and the camera survived just fine - but it scared the s*** out of me when I opened the bag and immediately felt the heat and realized this).

...just a story to share to maybe think the "always ready to turn on - status" over a bit ;)
...for what we see here; I think the cable solution is just fine, on the picture the cable appears to be a few centimeters too long for very short configurations but I guess it's not a problem.
 
Peter Stelzhammer said:
I' only like this idea IF you're able to turn off the power-passthrough in a fashion where it is fail-safe to not power up the camera by accident with(!) a battery mounted! There are scenarios where I have the Brick mounted but don't want the camera to be able to power up accidentally -> when the LEMO-Cable is unplugged this is pretty bullet-proof. Buttons can be pressed without even noticing when carrying a camera e.g. in a soft case - if you don't notice this it might be very dangerous (the camera will overheat after some time). Maybe this is not a problem anymore with the DSMC system - but with RED ONE I had this happening once and was only lucky that the camera survived (accidentally turned on in a closed soft-bag -> camera sucked the battery dry and went very hot; gladly there was not much time remaining on the battery and the camera survived just fine - but it scared the s*** out of me when I opened the bag and immediately felt the heat and realized this).

...just a story to share to maybe think the "always ready to turn on - status" over a bit ;)
...for what we see here; I think the cable solution is just fine, on the picture the cable appears to be a few centimeters too long for very short configurations but I guess it's not a problem.
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By that definition the SIDE HANDLE, DUAL and QUAD REDVOLT modules and the MEIZLER must be very "dangerous"...

:sarcasm:
 
if you leave the VOLT inside - maybe... We don't use any of these VOLT stuffs actually so I don't know (ok, we have the QUAD module with RED VOLTS actually - but I don't use it because I personally think //no offense please// the whole RED VOLT system is not as good and as professional as it should be! Maybe this is getting better with the newer back-module for the XL but honestly -> plastic feel, tough to press LED-buttons, loosing capacity or not loading fully after time or when left in the side-handle, jumping out too fast with the spring-load and lock-mechanism, the QUAD module doesn't lock rock tight to the brain and has a little play -> alltogether it doesn't feel right for me. Tried once an then sold half of it -> but you basically can't even sell the quad for more then 1/4 of the original price anymore because of... reasons... haha :p)... But I think with these units the buttons are somehow loack-able (the sidehandle at least) so it's not that much of a problem.

Anyways - leaving the battery on (mounted I mean, not turned on) all the time will also drain it; it's only the small red led maybe but leave it on for some days and it will definitley drain (the V-Mounts).

that's my opinion :)
 
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i guess i will wait for the XL direct back mount thing....and just got the V lock belt clip anyway....this looks great but i don't need the extra power outs and the cable really makes it...a bit less...elegant....
 
Tehben Dean said:
Still plans for a v-mount module with power-through instead of the cable?
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+100 on that Question, will help a lot of Peoples buying Plans:

Is a non Cable Version V Mount that carries Power Through the Pins still in development? Or has development on that been ended since this Plate came out now ?
 
tomspark said:
Be nice if the 6 pin lemo to camera body connector was a right angle version... be even nicer if the V-mount battery via this backpack option could power the camera through the back pins like the battery modules do. The current non right angle lemo plug sticks out at the bottom a fair bit and at least in my usage tends to get lent on when off the tripod. One of my lemo connectors has already been compromised. I modified a battery plate to accept a right angle 6 pin lemo that extends to the right of the rear, and not only is it neater, but I am no longer putting pressure on the lemo connections and therefore risking broken wires in day to day camera use. Preferable option however would be to have V-mount battery option on the backplate without the need for the lemo plug at all...
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+1 on that.
 
What is the Redmote powering solution once the quickplate is installed ?
The 2 pin Lemo on the QP and the 4 pin Lemo on the +1 Module gives 15-16 Volts that would kill the redmote...right ?
I don't understand why there's no 5V juice for the redmote from the +1, and now , from the Quickplate.
 
Has anyone received their quickplate short yet? Mine just arrived today. Had a real hard time getting it onto the backpack baseplate, and failed to get my v-mounts to click in.

I've contacted technical support and bomb-squad rep, but as I understand it's late/July 4th there right now so not expecting any help soon. Just wondering if anyone else has received theirs and had issues or not.
 
Josef Gatti said:
Has anyone received their quickplate short yet? Mine just arrived today. Had a real hard time getting it onto the backpack baseplate, and failed to get my v-mounts to click in.

I've contacted technical support and bomb-squad rep, but as I understand it's late/July 4th there right now so not expecting any help soon. Just wondering if anyone else has received theirs and had issues or not.
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sounds like something went sideways on you... well 2 things. Does your vlock button engage and disengage the v lock little tabs inside the vlock? without the battery? I assume the V lock batteries you are using are REDBRICKs?
 
You should be on holidays, Jarred!

I'm using the PAGlink batteries (here, if you're not familiar), needed some a little smaller than bricks. Is that the issue? They're industry standard v-lock.

The v-lock button engages as the battery slides in, but never pops out. At the same time, the camera has power, but the pins are only slightly touching - it seems as if it's not going all the way down. And I refuse to put any pressure on it.

edit: and yes, the button engages and disengages the tab inside the lock when pressed and released (with no battery).
 
Josef Gatti said:
You should be on holidays, Jarred!

I'm using the PAGlink batteries (here, if you're not familiar), needed some a little smaller than bricks. Is that the issue? They're industry standard v-lock.

The v-lock button engages as the battery slides in, but never pops out. At the same time, the camera has power, but the pins are only slightly touching - it seems as if it's not going all the way down. And I refuse to put any pressure on it
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heh heh I am spending tonight in front of a Dragon shooting off it's own kind of fireworks :)

I think i have a few Paglink batteries at the studio.. ill try and see if I can replicate going on tomorrow. Its a standard V-Lock , but some batteries deviate from the standard a little with the indent spacing around the v-lock.
 
Jarred Land said:
heh heh I am spending tonight in front of a Dragon shooting off it's own kind of fireworks :)

I think i have a few Paglink batteries at the studio.. ill try and see if I can replicate going on tomorrow. Its a standard V-Lock , but some batteries deviate from the standard a little with the indent spacing around the v-lock.
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Thanks Jarred, you the man. I'll check back on this post sometime tomorrow. Maybe by then technical support may have got back to me too.

And daym I know you're working hard as hell but that sounds like a holiday to me. Hope it's all going well over there, can't wait to see the first frames!
 
I picked up the BACKPACK QUICKPLATE (SHORT) when I grabbed my Epic.

Here's what V-Mount batteries I've stuck in there thus far that work just fine:

- RED BRICK
- GMP
- Dynacore
- IDX Endura

That's all I've had around me in the last few days, but all those fit nice and snug. Haven't found anything that doesn't click in just yet.
 
Thanks Phil. The closer I study the size of the locking mechanism and the inverse on the battery - maybe the the PAGs are a bit narrow, hard to say. I'll go to the engineering dept. on Monday and grab a stack of v-mounts and see if they fit, and see if the pags line up with the XD cams plates.

Congrats on the Epic!
 
Pags and Sony batteries are tighter than the rest.. but they still work over here.
 
Thanks Jarred, really appreciate you checking for me. I'll work out which end of the locking mechanism is a weird size and get back to tech support. Have a great weekend with those dragons!
 
Josef Gatti said:
Thanks Jarred, really appreciate you checking for me. I'll work out which end of the locking mechanism is a weird size and get back to tech support. Have a great weekend with those dragons!
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Engineers did their measuring... looks like the actual V of the Pag is a bit larger than everyone else.. where the problem is coming from.
 
Jarred Land said:
Engineers did their measuring... looks like the actual V of the Pag is a bit larger than everyone else.. where the problem is coming from.
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Thanks for that confirmation. Have contacted PAG and they're machining some new V-mouldings for me.

So weird, the PAGs fit our XD cams here no worries. But then all of our V-lock batteries (I tried about 8) fit the plate. Thanks again Jarred, appreciate you taking the time!
 
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