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NAB Surprises

pixelchef said:
Jim, my apologies for being obtuse, but gotta ask. For reservation holders, how exactly does the accessories (e.g. the current price-list) purchase work? Do we need to put in our order at NAB, or when we receive our 30-days-out notification? I want to keep my ducks all in a nice row, tx!
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When your camera is ready you have 30 days to pay. You'll order your accessories somewhere in that time frame, but probably when you are notified your camera is ready.
 
joelnet said:
When your camera is ready you have 30 days to pay. You'll order your accessories somewhere in that time frame, but probably when you are notified your camera is ready.
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joelnet, can you link to where you got this information? I've seen Jim's post on the 30 days, but not the part about the accessories. Seems like a good way to go, though.
 
The accessories [with some exceptions... RAW Data port and perhaps some storage options...] will be available when the camera ships. At that point it will be a simple purchase, no reservations. You shouldn't have to "reserve" a handle or rail or anything. Just call, place your order and watch the mail.

This is all AFAIK. The rate at which accessories are available is what's really up in the air.
 
Tell ya what I would love. A PDF of the Red Camera / RedCine manual available for download once the first orders start being filled. Because even though we are only 562nd in line, it would be so great to be able to read up and research the ins and outs of the camera and workflow so we can hit the ground running when our camera finally does come up. I imagine the manuals will be PDF anyhow?
 
Thom said:
I really don't want to continously connect and disconnect a ram drive to dump it (like a digital colostomy bag)
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Now that's a fantastic analogy.

I guess P2 is just like taking a dump, then. :biggrin:
 
Brook Willard said:
The accessories [with some exceptions... RAW Data port and perhaps some storage options...] will be available when the camera ships.
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Do you think the RAW Data port will be ready by the time #561 ships? I would rather get the port installed before my camera ships, but not if I have to wait more then a couple weeks for the part to be finished. I plan to rent out my camera at first, and those couple weeks are when my camera will be in highest demand.

The RAW Data port is looking more and more like a bad option for me, especially since I get the feeling that RED has given up on the RED-RAID.
 
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=16804&postcount=26

Stuart English said:
If you add the RAW PORT for uncompressed 4K and 4K+ recording, then you are also looking at hooking it up to a $100K+ price range 4K / 4K+ capable DDR.
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I'm hoping Stuart forgot to mention: "...or waiting for the affordable RED-RAID at the end of the year."

I hope we will at least know one way or the other if RED is still planning on the RED-RAID before my number comes up. I just don't trust any other company then RED to sell me an affordable, 4K / 4K+ capable RAID, for recording the higher frame rates of the RAW port.
 
Curran Giddens said:
I hope we will at least know one way or the other if RED is still planning on the RED-RAID before my number comes up. I just don't trust any other company then RED to sell me an affordable, 4K / 4K+ capable RAID, for recording the higher frame rates of the RAW port.
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I would imagine that RED will at least provide a list of hardware so you can build your own. The real stumbling block is going to be the 10G fiber interface for the system if it becomes a build yourself solution.

Anyway, for as much overcranked footage as you intend to shoot (seems like a lot from your posts), are you sure something like a Phantom HD wouldn't be a better match? Or sticking with film? A lot of us here are hoping to have access to the 2K @ 120fps, but all things considered, 120fps isn't that fast. The cost of the RAW port along with a competent RAID and probably a companion server/workstation can go a long way toward leasing/buying a Phantom or processing film shot with a high-speed film camera.
 
zak forrest said:
is curran the only person in the world using the optical port? are you dead set on that or is there a possibility you will shoot redcode raw? why doyou want to be uncompressed to a raid again?
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2K @ 120fps mostly. I may be satisfied with 720p @ 120fps uprezzed in post if I can't get a 4k capable RAID with optical port, for recording the RAW data, for less then $40k.

AppliedVisual said:
Anyway, for as much overcranked footage as you intend to shoot (seems like a lot from your posts), are you sure something like a Phantom HD wouldn't be a better match? Or sticking with film? A lot of us here are hoping to have access to the 2K @ 120fps, but all things considered, 120fps isn't that fast. The cost of the RAW port along with a competent RAID and probably a companion server/workstation can go a long way toward leasing/buying a Phantom or processing film shot with a high-speed film camera.
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I would use the RED-RAID for an online storage solution as well as for recording the RAW port (even if it is not intended for this purpose). 120fps is just fast enough and I'm sure that Phantom HD camera is too expensive (dare I ask how much?). Wasn't there some discussion back on dvxuser where we were estimating the RED-RAID to cost somewhere between $20k - $30k?

I can't be the only one interested in a high-performance online storage solution which happens to also be capable of recording all the high frame rates that the RED ONE offers.
 
adaml said:
joelnet, can you link to where you got this information? I've seen Jim's post on the 30 days, but not the part about the accessories. Seems like a good way to go, though.
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I don't have the link but I do remember the 30 days. Why would accessories be different? Is anyone planning on buying the camera but waiting to take the free $2500 in accessories until 3 months later? If the accessory you want isn't ready at purchase time I'd assume you'll order it and it'll show up when it's ready.

Jim's been pretty straightforward that he's going to take care of the customer.

Seems like you're worried about something but I'm having a hard time conjuring up what that possibly could be.
 
No worries here. I had seen the 30 days reference as well, but not the other information in your post. That's why I asked for a link.
 
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