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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Mysterium-X upgrade

Same size sensor
Redcode 42
Same rez
Better quality (in some ways)

Probably:
Better effective dynamic range (but probably the same "real/measurable" one as the bit-depth may stay the same as opposed to Epic)
More overall fun depending on the price/performance ratio and how much of the inner elements of the camera actually has to be changed in addition to the sensor itself.

BUT
THese are guesses and speculations and should soon be forgotten...
 
Could be.
As far as I have seen, the pixel-size in MX is the same as the current.
Without changing even more of the boards... Well, who knows, 'cept maybe Jim and Jarrod...

Speculations anyway.

Kinda sorry I bit the bait... :)

Twice...
 
It can't do 5K,Jarred has already stated that the internals can only be pushed so much and 5K requires a massive pipe that Red one doesn't have...
Higher DR, better 4.5K image etc. is probably more likely but not certain...it's said though it can't do 5K...
 
Imran is correct. Jim and Jarred have both said it. With the sensor upgrade, you just get a better sensor for an improved image, more sensitivity, less skew.

Due to the other internals and bandwidth restrictions, all the shooting modes, resolutions, frame rates, etc.. remain the same.

Mysterium-X and the original Mysterium have the same size pixels/photosites at 5.4 microns. The RED One has a "5K" sensor as well, the camera just can't use more than the 4520 pixel width active area. And for internal processing and bandwidth reasons, we're limited to 4480x1920 or 4096x2304.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Imran is correct. Jim and Jarred have both said it. With the sensor upgrade, you just get a better sensor for an improved image, more sensitivity, less skew.

Due to the other internals and bandwidth restrictions, all the shooting modes, resolutions, frame rates, etc.. remain the same.

Mysterium-X and the original Mysterium have the same size pixels/photosites at 5.4 microns. The RED One has a "5K" sensor as well, the camera just can't use more than the 4520 pixel width active area. And for internal processing and bandwidth reasons, we're limited to 4480x1920 or 4096x2304.
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I'm a visual effects guy, and all I care about in the upgrade is skew reduction.

Has the amount of skew reduction via MysteriumX upgrade been quantified anywhere? Meaning, are the current vs. future sensors read/reset speeds documented anywhere?

Also, has it been stated whether the skew reduction for the RED with sensor upgrade will be any less pronounced than the EpicX's? Meaning, will the EpicX with MysteriumX sensor have less skew than a RED One with MysteriumX sensor?
 
I know the frame rates will be the same on the Red One. My question is will it be possible to record 1080pFF on a red one with the upgrade?
 
It is 1080P Full frame. Instead of cropping the sensor to get a smaller image size the camera uses the full sensor then resizes it in the camera. This allows you to get the full 4k shallow DOF with a 1080p output.
 
That's what I thought you meant, basically what the 5DmII is doing with its APS-C sensor. But why do you want it done in camera, when you can control that in post? To be able to record more footage on a single card? That would make sense..
 
Yousuf Abbasi said:
That's what I thought you meant, basically what the 5DmII is doing with its APS-C sensor. But why do you want it done in camera, when you can control that in post? To be able to record more footage on a single card? That would make sense..
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5D MkII has a FF35 sensor not an APS-C.
And it skips lines to read the sensor fast enough for 30fps introducing artifacts.

RED will do it in a classy way, with a proper resize done in camera.

Maybe there's a time you just don't wanna handle 4K RAW in post, it's better to have this and don't use it than to need it and don't have it.
 
My question is if anyone has heard of the Red X upgrade including this 1080pFF. I know that both the all the Scarlets and all the Epics include this option. I just don't know if the Red one with the upgrade will be able to handle it or not.
 
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