More HDRx...

[Brian F Kobylarz]

Without a doubt, we are at the threshold of a new era in cinematography. I've interrupted my day more than a dozen times today just to keep visiting this thread.
Amazing.
If anyone out there still has any concerns about "is it worth the wait?", sit back, take a deep breath, and look again at the range these cameras will be able to capture.
Place them in skilled hands and what a visual treat the world will be in for. Our audiences get spoiled quickly, as do we all, so the bar will be set higher - but isn't that the real story behind this company? When we invested in RED, there was no promise of the capabilities being demonstrated today. And it doesn't look like it's going to slow down.
Needless to say, I want to be working and testing the EPIC in my own hands sooner rather than later - a thought shared by many of us on this forum. However, with the enhancements being made, like many of the finer things in life, it is proving to be worth the wait.
This is a revolution - glad to be aboard.

 

[Justen Nguyen]

wow amazing. that's just incredible Jim. I'm at a loss for words.

 

[Mike Prevette]

I hope the patent is applied for.

 

[Zach Gray]

Very impressive. I know a couple people who might want to try night sky timelapse, Deanan. I remember seeing an image from the Thompson GV Infinity camera which claimed 23 stops. That camera seems to have never surfaced though, or at least I haven't heard about it in a while. Here is their test shot released a while back. Notice the visible filament. (I'm just assuming this is legit) Seems like HDR× could duplicate this shot?

I wonder what will happen to these guys with Red really stepping up like this?

Spheron had a motion HDR solution in the works.

http://www.scarletuser.com/showpost.php?p=58998&postcount=1

 

[Erick von Schulz]

That is incredible. Now I am not going to be able to sleep tonight.. Does anyone know if this is also available for the Red as of now?

 

[Derek Wiesehahn]

This is absolutely revolutionary and it marks a real turning point in history. Digital acquisition technology finally has a real edge over film.

Forgive me if this has already been asked, but will HDR mode be available for the S35 and FF35 Scarlets as well as the 2/3" models?

 

[Eric Lagerlof]

I remember shooting with a single-tube video camera for the first time (a few decades ago), an inside/outside shot, and wondering where half the frame had gone... This really is incredible.

 

[Manjeet Singh]

Wow, Jim your team should get a noble prize! Not sure in which category though

 

[Laco Zamba]

You know what will happen next?
In december Canon introduce new revolutionary 5D HDR with fake and poor HDR. Everybody here will be laughing and Canon too.
RED is developing and Canon is selling :-(

 

[Jordan Service]

I literally said "woah" then I had goose bumps. That is really impressive.

 

[Carlos Dueñas]

En dos palabras: Im-presionante.

 

[Michael Stanmore]

Thanks for the reply... I used VLC... so you got me there... I also used QT 7.6.6 though... so you're not seeing anything at all in the top right hand corner between those slats, during the pan? A sort of flickering effect?

Yeesh, talk about impatient. Even if there were HUGE motion artifacts in this brand new footage, I have total faith in the software skills out there. To fix any small issues that, let's face it, 97% of the population wouldn't notice in IMAX. Tech analysis is fine, so long as we can all agree that this isn't the day to nitpick a millennial breakthrough in filmmaking technology.

I know it's awkward but I waded through the 25 pages of sycophancy... I'm a Red fan and a Red Camera (ex)-owner (it was stolen).

I watched the clip and refuse to believe I'm the only one interested in the flickering through the slats.

All the HDR in the world means nothing if the motion is crap and I do NOT think I'm out of line politely asking if anyone else has spotted it and if it's my machine or settings that are the problem.

I'm not a technical person, but I CAN spot when the damn light is flickering between planks of wood.

I thought the question might be more useful than "oh Red company, how do I love thee... infinite plus one! No... infinite plus 2!"

 

[Eric Trageser]

2. I have a dear wish: A full range DPX or even better TIFF still image (not begging for the sequence) of this particular scene. Preferably in full resolutions. Just a single image, so we can start playing with this in our grading suite.


Axel

Yes Please on the 16-bit TIFF. I want to zoom in on this image, and get my dose of shock & awe.

 

[Shane Betts]

I know it's awkward but I waded through the 25 pages of sycophancy... I'm a Red fan and a Red Camera (ex)-owner (it was stolen).

I watched the clip and refuse to believe I'm the only one interested in the flickering through the slats.

All the HDR in the world means nothing if the motion is crap and I do NOT think I'm out of line politely asking if anyone else has spotted it and if it's my machine or settings that are the problem.

I'm not a technical person, but I CAN spot when the damn light is flickering between planks of wood.

I thought the question might be more useful than "oh Red company, how do I love thee... infinite plus one! No... infinite plus 2!"

Hi Michael

Yes, I noticed the strobing on the pan and my thought was, "wow, that would strobe way worse on any other progressive camera, even film". As far as my experience goes, panning across a wall like that, slats of dark pierced with thin lines of bright could only be done safely with an interlaced camera, like a video camera set to SD or 50i etc.

But perhaps I'm wrong. Anyone else?

 

[Yannick Verry]

But isn't that an example where you might choose NOT to use HDRx™ ? The underexposed interior is cleverly used as a way of focusing attention of john wayne - his job is done etc

Fully agree. Actually, maybe the opening sequence would have benefit a little bit more of HRDx than the closing sequence, so we can get more details on the mum's back as soon as she passe the door :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy2-abqR8B4&feature=related
But having seen it recently on bluray, no doubt the 56 years old feature is perfect as it is.

For me, High DR and sensitivity are the main reason i can't wait to get my hands on those calera, but Cinema (this is what we're talking about right ?) still is all about light & shadows. Let's not forget what audience can't see is as important as what they will see.

 

[Greg Ephraim]

as a DP, thank you. this is THE single framegrab/still that has excited me most. this is going to change everything.......including the taste of haters words when they have to eat them.

stoked to say the least

 

[Leo Sardello]

I'm not a technical person, but I CAN spot when the damn light is flickering between planks of wood.

I do not see the effect that you are talking about. I can’t really speak to why, but since I don’t see it all (even in the slightest) I might recommend that you check it out on another machine and see if you still see it there. It would rule out that particular equipment. *Edit* If it helps I watched it using Window Media Player. Can’t stand QT and VLC is great but can have some issues.

I thought the question might be more useful than "oh Red company, how do I love thee... infinite plus one! No... infinite plus 2!"

You know people are just excited and it is a discussion forum.

 

[HyderBilgrami]

It is just awesome !!

 

[Axel Mertes]

Yes Please on the 16-bit TIFF. I want to zoom in on this image, and get my dose of shock & awe.

Yep, when I was writing I wish to see an uncompressed 5K TIFF of the HDRx result, I clearly meant it must be 16 bits to cover some of the range .

OTOH, I'd accept a 32 bit float EXR or DPX (yes, that is spec'ed in DPX!) as well But I think the 16 bit TIFF will do justice.

Just something to play with.

Looking forward to see this.


Axel

 

[Vico Martin]

I belive.

at this time, you have no competitors. Congrats.