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MEIZLER MODULE - Sneak Peak

It will be really interesting to see how aggressive they can be with pricing - there's a ton of tech in this.

We use 3ality Technica's lens 6 axis control for 3D with Atom and it's amazing. That's $4,900 without cables or motors - and total bargin at that price compared to Preston, etc.

So cut that in half - 3 axis - and you are $2450 for only lens control.

Wireless video? IDX Camwave = $4,900 (transmitter/receiver) and it's a very inferior product IMO. BOXX wireless is IMO best product available with zero frame delay, audio, TC and HANC meta data from RED cameras = $15,500 (transmitter/receiver). Then you have Teradek - which streams video over IP = $1990 for transmitter + $1890 for receiver ($3880).

So ... IMO the module is worth more than $5,000 with lens and video ONLY - forget about all the other functionality - wireless audio, timecode, battery mount, etc.

Reality is - functionality wise - this is a $10K + module easy. It does a lot more than our $25K per system Prestons.

I'm with everyone here hoping RED can get this priced very aggressively - but this is actually a SHIT TON of firepower in a TINY package - and it has NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE.

I'm just saying the I think folks need to be realistic. But yeah ... fingers crossed RED can price this thing low enough for owner/operators, etc.
 
Mark L. Pederson said:
It will be really interesting to see how aggressive they can be with pricing - there's a ton of tech in this.


SHIT TON of firepower in a TINY package - and it has NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE.
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Agree with you there Mark. It's just like the Epic. SHIT TON of firepower in a TINY package. I've been waiting and dreaming of something like this coming from Red for a long time.
 
This module seems awesome, i wish it had a second Red EVF/ monitor port as i'd rather not give my money to a 3rd party monitor when i already hane a bomb EVF and a red touch screen and want to use them both. I originally hated the idea of a touch screen but now it is the best way to control the camera. At the moment we do still need a Red made ProRes/ Dnxhd module to convince some producers to switch from the Alexa. This is for offline edit the RAW is for the Grade and master. I'm already convinced by Red, my company only pushes Red. But this module, a second EVF port and a "proxy " module would finally make any excuse to shoot Alexa pointless.
 
This module looks unbelievable... I can't wait to see how the wireless video is handled, and it's so nice to have an integrated solution for power to motors. A million praises. I just hope it's in the realm of affordability... this solves so many problems, I would think everyone would want one. Volume to drive a reasonable cost? Fingers crossed.

Wondering if it can be paired with a dual battery module and then you could take advantage of the REDMOTE connectivity on the back. Would be a shame to see them effectively kill the REDVOLT program with this... but they've probably already found a solution for this. :)
 
Jacob T. Ritley said:
Will you also support Anton Bauer gold mount?
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RED's warranty only covers RED Batteries. Unless they release REDBricks in AB I doubt they will offer a plate which requires people to use third party products that could void their warranty in the event of a surge.
 
With this, a second red monitor out and a proxy module i doubt i would ever need any more modules.
 
Both battery mounts use fuses to protect the connected components, there should be no difference between using an AB plate and a V lock, except voltage vs. %. display. A good majority or rental houses use AB so I suspect quite a few of these to be adapted. Not to mention all the people using the AB Epic plate or just plain Ol' block batteries plugged directly into the body. I don think that voids any warranties, but I also wouldn't expect a new power board to be covered if a block shorted.
 
Evin Grant said:
Both battery mounts use fuses to protect the connected components, there should be no difference between using an AB plate and a V lock, except voltage vs. %. display. A good majority or rental houses use AB so I suspect quite a few of these to be adapted. Not to mention all the people using the AB Epic plate or just plain Ol' block batteries plugged directly into the body. I don think that voids any warranties, but I also wouldn't expect a new power board to be covered if a block shorted.
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Using an adapter to go from V to AB is not going to void the warranty. V-Lock is standard on this module because that is the RED standard, and the batteries we sell are V-Lock. Hope people can appreciate that.

Fuses are great to protect .. but you would be amazed how many plates we see come in to servicing with a ball of tinfoil where the fuse is supposed to be.

Actually changing plates is as simple of an electrical change as you can get.. but we have seen people fuck it up.
 
Yeah pretty sick. So many possibilities.

Probably blowing smoke here, but directing I yearn for a way to put markers in the footage - when you see the actor finally get to the magic, tap the iPad and leave a mark in the proxy/R3D. Editor cutting concurrently can see directors performance preferences embedded in the file without bouncing back and forth between scripty notes.


nick allsop said:
This module seems awesome, i wish it had a second Red EVF/ monitor port
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yesyesyes very yes
 
Nice! Really Nice!

For any of my RED brothers having trouble coming up with the cash for this cool tool, my friend Peggy will help you an me get the cash that you need...


peggy.jpg


My Name Peggy, I here to help.....heehheeee
 
Edward Blythe said:
Yeah pretty sick. So many possibilities.

Probably blowing smoke here, but directing I yearn for a way to put markers in the footage - when you see the actor finally get to the magic, tap the iPad and leave a mark in the proxy/R3D. Editor cutting concurrently can see directors performance preferences embedded in the file without bouncing back and forth between scripty notes.

yesyesyes very yes
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Marking selects during the roll is coming.. its a big feature for the stills guys as well. They are embedded in the metadata just like you suggest and when you open RCX you can go right to those marks and even batch export just the selects.
 
Jarred Land said:
Marking selects during the roll is coming.. its a big feature for the stills guys as well. They are embedded in the metadata just like you suggest and when you open RCX you can go right to those marks and even batch export just the selects.
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Fantastic! This is a feature I've needed for a long time. Very useful for long documentary interviews as well.
 
Jarred Land said:
Marking selects during the roll is coming.. its a big feature for the stills guys as well. They are embedded in the metadata just like you suggest and when you open RCX you can go right to those marks and even batch export just the selects.
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EGADS. The future is awesome.
 
No way... killer!
Meet you @ Vegas.
Thanks
Cheers
 
Mark L. Pederson said:
It will be really interesting to see how aggressive they can be with pricing - there's a ton of tech in this.

We use 3ality Technica's lens 6 axis control for 3D with Atom and it's amazing. That's $4,900 without cables or motors - and total bargin at that price compared to Preston, etc.

So cut that in half - 3 axis - and you are $2450 for only lens control.

Wireless video? IDX Camwave = $4,900 (transmitter/receiver) and it's a very inferior product IMO. BOXX wireless is IMO best product available with zero frame delay, audio, TC and HANC meta data from RED cameras = $15,500 (transmitter/receiver). Then you have Teradek - which streams video over IP = $1990 for transmitter + $1890 for receiver ($3880).

So ... IMO the module is worth more than $5,000 with lens and video ONLY - forget about all the other functionality - wireless audio, timecode, battery mount, etc.

Reality is - functionality wise - this is a $10K + module easy. It does a lot more than our $25K per system Prestons.

I'm with everyone here hoping RED can get this priced very aggressively - but this is actually a SHIT TON of firepower in a TINY package - and it has NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE.

I'm just saying the I think folks need to be realistic. But yeah ... fingers crossed RED can price this thing low enough for owner/operators, etc.
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Ditto.
 
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