Caleb Vetter
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When do you expect to have allocated all the day-one orders of the Raven? Obviously the ones that stuck with the Raven 
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When do you expect to have allocated all the day-one orders of the Raven? Obviously the ones that stuck with the Raven![]()
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Hi Brent,
Do you know if the Epic dragon loaners is disponible for REDEUROPE ? My Bomb squad is awaiting instruction from RED USA.
Thanks
I don't understand this stance. RED has been treating people who ordered Scarlet-W directly from them worse then switchers and those who ordered from dealers.
Lesson learned, only order from Dealers in the future since they apparently got priority over individual orders.
Yeah I don't understand this business move either... I guess they are putting their loyal Red customers lower than their relationships with camera dealers..? Can't help wishing I hadn't ordered through Red either.
There is no loyalty involved. Whats so hard to understand?
They are going to go by order date and timestamp. End of story.
If you ordered in November/December, and a Raven to SW switcher ordered a Raven in September... he/she was still in line before you. He has been waiting a lot longer than you for a unit... just cause he/she switched doesn't mean that he/she will go to the back of the line. That was a promise by RED for switching so the stress for RED to create so many Ravens units can be somewhat relieved.
Similarly, if a dealer was number 3 in line, RED will still prioritize to people who are number 1 and number 2 in line.
But at the same time, if the dealer ordered 10 units or 100 units, and you are number 20 in line (first you wait for RED to satisfy those 10 to 100 units), then the people who are number 4 to 19 in line is satisfied. And, if you haven't figured it out yet, if number 21 ordered from the dealer... he is going to get one of the 10 to 100 units that the dealer has in stock, perhaps even before number 4 to 19 get their units. Why is that hard to understand?
There is no loyalty involved. Whats so hard to understand?
They are going to go by order date and timestamp. End of story.
If you ordered in November/December, and a Raven to SW switcher ordered a Raven in September... he/she was still in line before you. He has been waiting a lot longer than you for a unit... just cause he/she switched doesn't mean that he/she will go to the back of the line. That was a promise by RED for switching so the stress for RED to create so many Ravens units can be somewhat relieved.
Similarly, if a dealer was number 3 in line, RED will still prioritize to people who are number 1 and number 2 in line.
But at the same time, if the dealer ordered 10 units or 100 units, and you are number 20 in line (first you wait for RED to satisfy those 10 to 100 units), then the people who are number 4 to 19 in line is satisfied. And, if you haven't figured it out yet, if number 21 ordered from the dealer... he is going to get one of the 10 to 100 units that the dealer has in stock, perhaps even before number 4 to 19 get their units. Why is that hard to understand?
I've directly been told by numerous dealers that part of the reason it could be faster to order from them is because they have contracts with RED, such that RED is obligated to fulfill a certain number of shipped cameras to them by set dates and that this gives them priority over individuals. I've also just straight up had dealers tell me they got priority.
Is any of this true? No idea, but it's a little shocking that so many dealers I've spoken to came out and said this to me.
I was not aware the dealers ordered a bunch of Ravens up front (then switched). I assumed they just put in orders as they get them. I guess I was mistaken if this is true.
It is still quite confusing though how today a Raven orderer could decide to switch and they would be put in front of my time stamp within an hour of Scarlet W announcement. Unless I misunderstood something there too.
Derek Means said:People who ordered from dealers have received them, but nobody who directly ordered with a December 10th timestamp has come forward that I have seen. Since RED doesn't release what timestamp they are working on, I can't see how you would know otherwise unless you've seen a post that I haven't.