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Magic lantern... Dude.

william howell

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Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous what they're still pulling out of the mk2. Not really a fan of hodge-podge workarounds and hacks and such, but when it gets buttoned down it basically obsolesce obsoletes your Mk2 for yet another camera generation (until 4k is standard, anyway)... That's 5 years of relevancy for a meagre $2.5k; not bad. Actually a little better since no other digital camera is doing FF35 yet.
 
I dunno, did you see the rolling shutter wobble? If someone walks past the camera at a slow pace im sure it would rolling shutter jello to hell. I guess it would be ok got tripod landscape shots...but thats about it. I think I will stick with my RED :)
 
Mike P. said:
Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous what they're still pulling out of the mk2. Not really a fan of hodge-podge workarounds and hacks and such, but when it gets buttoned down it basically obsolesce obsoletes your Mk2 for yet another camera generation (until 4k is standard, anyway)... That's 5 years of relevancy for a meagre $2.5k; not bad. Actually a little better since no other digital camera is doing FF35 yet.
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Yes there is, the Canon 1D C
 
i wonder how this affects the staff at canon hq...

if canon knew what was good for them, they'd secretly slip (i.e. donate) some of these dudes some cash to work full-time at this stuff. if they knew what was even better for them, they'd go all in, hire some of these guys, and openly embrace that type of development. at the same time, i think it's the undertones of rebelliousness that drive the world of 'hacking'... oh, and it's free work.

:sifone:
 
Magic lantern 1920 x 1080 2.35:1 aspect ratio raw test Canon 5D Mark III

CF 1000x

 
paulherrin said:
i wonder how this affects the staff at canon hq...

if canon knew what was good for them, they'd secretly slip (i.e. donate) some of these dudes some cash to work full-time at this stuff. if they knew what was even better for them, they'd go all in, hire some of these guys, and openly embrace that type of development. at the same time, i think it's the undertones of rebelliousness that drive the world of 'hacking'... oh, and it's free work.

:sifone:
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If You seriously believe that Canon needs help in this department - think again...
I wish you could see even a fraction of the stuff that they do at their R&D center here in Japan...
They are not interested in providing such a features in these particular products, as they belong to a completely different market section.
Canon had a patent for both full 4K and half-2K (without line skipping) RAW motion capture issued a while ago - just search here on the forum.
But these features are destined for the Cinema division, not DSLR...

Peter
 
Mike P. said:
...it basically obsolesce obsoletes your Mk2 for yet another camera generation (until 4k is standard, anyway)...
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What do you mean, 'until'?

Them's fighting words in these here parts...

Mike
 
Well big news on this front. It appears they now have continuous video at 24fps in full 1080p working on 1000x compact flash cards.

I wrote an article about it here:

http://www.redsharknews.com/technol...reakthough-1080p-raw-video-on-canon-eos-dslrs

I think Red has lit a bit of a fire. Wasn't Jim or someone saying something some time ago about how the big companies couldn't just sit back anymore and chill out on yesterdays technologies. It seems like things are really changing with companies like Black Magic keen to find out what the customer wants and to give them it at an affordable price and organisations like Magic Lantern developing software that can take existing technology to new levels. On top of that you also have companies like Arri and Red at the higher end of the market and the digital bolex people creating strangely innovative new things. It does lead you to wonder how some of the older companies are going to cope.

Freya
 
David Mullen ASC said:
It's interesting that "raw" is 1920 x 1080, not the full 5.6K resolution of the sensor, I guess this means that the line skipping / pixel binning / whatever is done in raw from 5.6K to 1080P before conversion to RGB, which makes sense.
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They are using a special function to produce crops of the sensor I think? Something like the 2k RAW mode on the Red one?
See my article on Red Shark as there is quite a bit more detail there from the developers.

I think the big problem they are having right now is the speed of compact flash cards. (SD cards being even worse) so they are cropping the sensor data.
They have some new routines that appear to do the crop and use DMA in some fashion. I don't have the full details beyond what I quote in the article.

Right now they are trying to get the 600D working better with RAW but it's turning out to be a bit tricky.

Freya
 
David Mullen ASC said:
It's interesting that "raw" is 1920 x 1080, not the full 5.6K resolution of the sensor, I guess this means that the line skipping / pixel binning / whatever is done in raw from 5.6K to 1080P before conversion to RGB, which makes sense.
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Or come to think of it, maybe you read my article and I really confused you by saying that it is a "full frame" camera that can do RAW which is a bit of a pointless thing to have said given that these are crops of the sensor and so....

Doh! ;)

Been doing silly things all day, not sure what's wrong with me! Maybe I need to eat more fruit or something.

Freya
 
Is it a sensor crop, other than the vertical crop to 2.40? Sounds like it's the sensor signal scaled from 5616 to 1920 pixels across using whatever line skipping / pixel binning, etc. method the camera normally uses to get HD video off of the sensor, otherwise no one would get that shallow focus full-frame look in their HD video. It seems to me that they are somehow capturing the raw signal somewhere in mid-processing, after the line skipping / pixel binning but before the conversion to RGB. There may be some cropping but I don't think it's being cropped from 5616 pixels to 1920 pixels, that would be pretty severe.
 
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